Transformers Earthrise Thrust Found at US Retail

I can't wait to struggle in finding this figure like I am with the Coneheads.

I didn't see Thrust at my local Target, however I did manage to find and acquire a Runabout.

Quantum Surge wrote:I can't wait to struggle in finding this figure like I am with the Coneheads.

As Amazon exclusives, Ramjet and Dirge may only be available as monstrous Ebay markups at this point. A couple online sellers like TF Source had them for a few seconds, but that was about it.

adamage1 wrote:Finished my custom paint applications for my Earthrise Smokescreen, and I think it turned out quite nice for my first custom attempt. I may also try to paint in the tail lights, but that’s a bit more involved, so I don’t know.

Does anyone else here try their hand at custom painting? In this case, I was just applying paint for areas I felt were neglected from the factory. I would love to hear any feedback, tips, etc., as I am quite new to it.

I do it. Regular-release paint jobs, even the Takara ones from the period where they were throwing a smidge more money at it, are never going to be full-service. Painting in details that the factory job didn't cover can really do wonders for a figure. And it usually looks better than stickers over molded detail does. I think you did a good job. If you're willing to get more involved on what you've already done, I'd suggest painting the tips of the shoulder weapons silver:

adamage1 wrote:Finished my custom paint applications for my Earthrise Smokescreen, and I think it turned out quite nice for my first custom attempt. I may also try to paint in the tail lights, but that’s a bit more involved, so I don’t know.
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A bit more involved, but worthwhile in my opinion.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Yup, in a year where we have an arcee for each of main lines, the best turns out to be cyberverse.

I'm still amazed of all the gems the Cyberverse line hold. It's supposed to be the "kid's" line. Some Cyberverse figures being superior to their Generations counterpart was clearly unexpected. Especially when the superiority is because of genuine goodness instead of being the lesser of two evil.

I think being the kids line du jour makes it more of an A-List line than Earthrise is.

Whoa I hope I can score a Thrust figure at a few locations that might have him.

I finally played with ER Snapdragon. Way more simple to transform than Apeface and all 3 modes are pretty damn solid. So at last, my G1 Headmasters VS modern headmasters is finally complete, if I don't count the Titans.

Nemesis Destron wrote:Whoa I hope I can score a Thrust figure at a few locations that might have him.

Honestly, if it is anything like the Seeker two-pack, there will be plenty in the stores by the week of Christmas or just into the new year. I remember the mad rush in trying to cop the Seeker pack and finally getting it then a week or so later I saw four on the shelf and they hung around for a couple of weeks.

Found optimus on retail for 30%+20% discount, so i caved in.

Putting the accessories on optimus as subtle upgrade form works well in my opinion.



As for the trailer,



I tried to use it as shield mode after seeing it works pretty well on astrotrain's tender. Obviusly this looks nowhere as elegant.

Would work well against a "incoming main Canon Blast!" scenario.

bacem wrote:As for the trailer,

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I tried to use it as shield mode after seeing it works pretty well on astrotrain's tender. Obviusly this looks nowhere as elegant.

Maybe try it on a larger figure?

bacem wrote:Found optimus on retail for 30%+20% discount, so i caved in..

Was it the only figure on sale? And where was the sale?

Just FYI, in case somebody hasn't mentioned it yet (appologize if it has), optimus's wheel butt is just connected via clip, so if it bothers you that much, you can just unclip it.



Resulting in cleaner back.



The wheel kibble can then attached under the trailer, via one peg connection (circled below)

william-james88 wrote:

bacem wrote:Found optimus on retail for 30%+20% discount, so i caved in..

Was it the only figure on sale? And where was the sale?

No, the other earthrise figure are on sale as well. This is on indonesian retail however, as i am not indonesian, and the discount only apply today, as part of voting day promo, so i'm not sure if this info is useful for this forum.

bacem wrote:Just FYI, in case somebody hasn't mentioned it yet (appologize if it has), optimus's wheel butt is just connected via clip, so if it bothers you that much, you can just unclip it.

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Resulting in cleaner back.

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The wheel kibble can then attached under the trailer, via one peg connection (circled below)

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Woah! Nice Easter Egg!

bacem wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

bacem wrote:Found optimus on retail for 30%+20% discount, so i caved in..

Was it the only figure on sale? And where was the sale?

No, the other earthrise figure are on sale as well. This is on indonesian retail however, as i am not indonesian, and the discount only apply today, as part of voting day promo, so i'm not sure if this info is useful for this forum.

Not really but I do find that interesting since I am a rather big fan of indonesia. My favourite spot is Lovina on Bali.

Glad to know Indonesia gets the Earthrise toys.

william-james88 wrote:

bacem wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

bacem wrote:Found optimus on retail for 30%+20% discount, so i caved in..

Was it the only figure on sale? And where was the sale?

No, the other earthrise figure are on sale as well. This is on indonesian retail however, as i am not indonesian, and the discount only apply today, as part of voting day promo, so i'm not sure if this info is useful for this forum.

Not really but I do find that interesting since I am a rather big fan of indonesia. My favourite spot is Lovina on Bali.

Glad to know Indonesia gets the Earthrise toys.

Oh, i've been to lovina before! Nice place, and not as crowded as kuta, so it feels calm.

Regarding our retails, we always get every transformers toyline here, albeit considerably late compared to US.. That being said, wether we get every complete wave from each toyline, is totally different case.

Honestly, I think it would be better for designers to just leave Optimus' front wheels in place, and have them on hinged struts a la Cybertron to permit outward movement of his hips. And to form the sloped sides of his abdomen (if they absolutely must have those) out of the front fenders. The bumper could stay in place too, also hinged. Be a lot cleaner in terms of both looks and transformation.

Has anyone stripped the paint off of ER Optimus' front windows? I'm curious as to how he'd look without it.

I got my Battlechargers.



I'm so glad these guys are a lot more readily available nowadays.

My Paradron Medics set came today, I really like Ratchet, especially the vehicle mode. I don't even mind the riot shield/boogie board all that much, because it adds some extra bulk and a unique look to the ambulance. Not mch to say about Lifeline, it's just green Arcee, but I do like the little extra paint detals like the stripes on the sides of her head. I came close to losing her gun twice while I was transforming her though, because it's clear plastic and difficult to see after you set it down somewhere.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Honestly, I think it would be better for designers to just leave Optimus' front wheels in place, and have them on hinged struts a la Cybertron to permit outward movement of his hips. And to form the sloped sides of his abdomen (if they absolutely must have those) out of the front fenders. The bumper could stay in place too, also hinged. Be a lot cleaner in terms of both looks and transformation.

So, Optimus should look like this?

Sort of. Something of a balance between that and the original toy.


Like I said, the front fenders could be repurposed to make the abdominal slopes; that would take care of them in robot mode and free his arms to be square. And with the bumper on a hinge and the front wheels on hinged struts, they wouldn't get in the way of articulation.

I'm having to be real patient over here in MO-town... My local Target hasn't had any deluxe or voyager ER figures in weeks... Actually, it's been over a month.
But last time I was in, there were 16 Decepticon clone 2 packs...
How in the world did they get a ton of those in and nothing else from ER???

My stores are interesting. I have some Wave 1 stuff left at my Walmart, and it started to get Wave 2 stuff a few months back, but all I saw was an Airwave, a few Snapdragons, and one Doubledealer. Meanwhile Studio Series went up to its most recent wave. At another Walmart, they have the Wave 2 Deluxes and Voyagers. Same goes for my Target in terms of the Voyagers. Not a single store has anything for Wave 3, which I had to buy online. In fact anyone find it weird that Studio Series remained on time with stock but Earthrise didn't?

Ironhide and Prowl finally came in today!

And I immediate broke Prowl's gun trying to get it out of the clamshell. -_-; I've been worried about the clamshell holding weapons a bit too securely and now one broke on me. Happily, I have good glue on hand and there's no evidence of a break at all since it happened right along the indent.

I like Prowl a whole lot. I'm glad I didn't get Siege because this hits all the right notes. The only other Prowl I have is the old Universe version. I never liked it. I got three because I needed those characters, but between the paint issues and my dislike for the mold itself with it's still legs and finnicky doors it never grew on me.

Ironhide on the other hand...

It looks like they started with a good remold, but stopped about halfway through. I could forgive the shoulders, but the feet really are an eyesore and they didn't have to be made like that. I like clear windows, but not when they end halfway through the vehicle. But his robot mode is better than Henkei's. And I need Prowl. So. Fine.

Hopefully a 3P makes some feet for him. I've seen the 3d printed ones and they just will not cut it. I appreciate the effort, but they don't blend well at all.

Hopefully I'll find a Quintesson in my area soon enough. I'm hoping to see one more repaint of the mold, but I only have the pit one so far.

Well pluck my hairs out and call me baldy; I was charged for my Prowl/Ironhide set a few hours ago, I'm really surprised.

I had my AA cancelled by Amazon a few days ago. Anyone else in this boat? Any chance Amazon will get it back in stock? Really trying to avoid overpaying on eBay for it.

nycPrime wrote:I had my AA cancelled by Amazon a few days ago. Anyone else in this boat? Any chance Amazon will get it back in stock? Really trying to avoid overpaying on eBay for it.

Did you approve the latest delay? I did a few days ago and now my status is "not yet shipped" instead of delayed so maybe mine is coming soon? Haven't been charged yet.

Emerje

Woah, I just got the Quintesson! Haven't even tried all the gimmicks yet but had to post my first impression -- this figure is big! It's even in scale with MP, I think. And the sculpt is spot-on! Some of the faces even have mouth-articulation. This trilogy is amazing. Now to open the "Allicon."

It's jumping back a few posts, but I think Zelda is talking about a Prime that looks like Robot Masters Prime. It's chest and grille aren't fake while still retaining G1 Prime's whole look.

I'm sure there's a way to make that in a way that doesn't make the entire vehicle mode suck.

TBH, I prefer Earthrise. In general I'm not a huge fan of faux parts, but I can't deny the results.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:It's jumping back a few posts, but I think Zelda is talking about a Prime that looks like Robot Masters Prime. It's chest and grille aren't fake while still retaining G1 Prime's whole look.

I'm sure there's a way to make that in a way that doesn't make the entire vehicle mode suck.

Ewww. That junk is soooo not what I was going for. Even if the chest and grille aren't fake it still suffers from faux-parts usage (like the bumper), the legs having to be turned backwards for vehicle mode, and an excessively complex transformation.


There's a reason I put a pic of the original (okay, it's a reissue, but) G1 toy in my last post. What I'm talking about is a Prime that largely looks like this except with:
1. The panels on the backs of the shoulders moved to his back to make the cartoon's backpack
2. Square forearms like the cartoon
3. Cartoon-style (at least somewhat) abdominal slopes achieved by flipping the front fenders (which would now no longer be attached to the forearms) up into the empty space left by the arms
4. The front wheels and bumper being hinged similarly to Cybertron Optimus' hip wheels and faux-bumper:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:TBH, I prefer Earthrise. In general I'm not a huge fan of faux parts, but I can't deny the results.

Well, if that's your taste.
For me, the transformation process is part of the result, and... A G1 Optimus Prime toy having a borderline Bayformer transformation scheme (based on what I've heard) feels off.

Regarding your gripes about ER Ironhide's feet... It seems pretty likely to me that the SIEGE Ratchet/Ironhide mold was never really designed with an Earth mode retool in mind. HasTak tried to shoehorn it into one anyway with a new windshield, new leg panels, and a roof shield and... Well, you can see how that worked out. The feet worked okay in the original version of the mold, and that was all they were really meant for.
Which 3D-printed feet were you looking at? The Funbie Studios ones look like they blend decently at least (although they're C.O.M.A.T. incompatible). Maybe it would work better to have a secondary shield piece that covers the feet to blend them (and can combine with the existing one in its ground platform mode).

I personally think ER Ratchet and Ironhide were a bad development investment... A new, Voyager mold with an A.I.R.Lock-compatible version of the G1 sled would have been a lot better I think.

nycPrime wrote:I had my AA cancelled by Amazon a few days ago. Anyone else in this boat? Any chance Amazon will get it back in stock? Really trying to avoid overpaying on eBay for it.

That sucks. I know a few people who just recently received theirs and after approving the last delay mine is 'Not yet shipped' so hopefully it doesn't get canceled.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Ewww. That junk is soooo not what I was going for. Even if the chest and grille aren't fake it still suffers from faux-parts usage (like the bumper), the legs having to be turned backwards for vehicle mode, and an excessively complex transformation.

Are they faux parts when they don't resemble a bumper in the least? Or even try to? But very well, I guess I missed what exactly you were describing.

I don't think that's exactly my ideal Prime, but to each his own.

Regarding your gripes about ER Ironhide's feet... It seems pretty likely to me that the SIEGE Ratchet/Ironhide mold was never really designed with an Earth mode retool in mind. HasTak tried to shoehorn it into one anyway with a new windshield, new leg panels, and a roof shield and... Well, you can see how that worked out. The feet worked okay in the original version of the mold, and that was all they were really meant for.
Which 3D-printed feet were you looking at? The Funbie Studios ones look like they blend decently at least

Yeah, those are the only ones available so far and they don't look good to me at all. I saw some 3rd party upgrades in development as I was searching and I hope that they get produced.

I don't think the Siege toy was ever meant to be repurposed either. The effect COULD have been alright, but it's like they ran out of money at the end since so much doesn't work. It'd have been better if they knew they were going to make an Earth mode from it and designed it to work with both modes in mind. Because it almost works. But not quite.

Personally I don't mind the shield. Because it actually looks like a shield.

My Ironhide was supposed to come out last month, and I'm still mad that it got pushed back on the SAME DAY it was supposed to come out.

They just can't get Thrust right can they ? His wings should flip up like Starscreams's but dowh at his hip level .

Bombshell0001 wrote:They just can't get Thrust right can they ? His wings should flip up like Starscreams's but dowh at his hip level .

I thought I saw they can be rotated downward, just not back at all once there.
Unless you mean that then they're upside-down compared to the character illustration.

Problem with Thrust is they'd have to rework the rotation setup just for him to get that quite right.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Ewww. That junk is soooo not what I was going for. Even if the chest and grille aren't fake it still suffers from faux-parts usage (like the bumper), the legs having to be turned backwards for vehicle mode, and an excessively complex transformation.

Are they faux parts when they don't resemble a bumper in the least? Or even try to? But very well, I guess I missed what exactly you were describing.

I don't think that's exactly my ideal Prime, but to each his own.

Well, they're faux-parts in that any attempt to implement what I call the "Dery Diaper" in lieu of just leaving the real bumper is; they replace the bumper with the thing the animation warps it into in robot mode. Robotmasters is a fairly unobtrusive example since it just segments it and slaps the segments on the hips, but it is an example.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Regarding your gripes about ER Ironhide's feet... It seems pretty likely to me that the SIEGE Ratchet/Ironhide mold was never really designed with an Earth mode retool in mind. HasTak tried to shoehorn it into one anyway with a new windshield, new leg panels, and a roof shield and... Well, you can see how that worked out. The feet worked okay in the original version of the mold, and that was all they were really meant for.
Which 3D-printed feet were you looking at? The Funbie Studios ones look like they blend decently at least

Yeah, those are the only ones available so far and they don't look good to me at all. I saw some 3rd party upgrades in development as I was searching and I hope that they get produced.

I don't think the Siege toy was ever meant to be repurposed either. The effect COULD have been alright, but it's like they ran out of money at the end since so much doesn't work. It'd have been better if they knew they were going to make an Earth mode from it and designed it to work with both modes in mind. Because it almost works. But not quite.

Personally I don't mind the shield. Because it actually looks like a shield.

Oh, I'm not saying it's a bad shield. It's a very good tower shield, especially with the point made by the folded front windows. It's just, the reason it exists is that HasTak tried to shoehorn a mold not designed to be Earth mode, into being Earth mode.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, they're faux-parts in that any attempt to implement what I call the "Dery Diaper" in lieu of just leaving the real bumper is; they replace the bumper with the thing the animation warps it into in robot mode. Robotmasters is a fairly unobtrusive example since it just segments it and slaps the segments on the hips, but it is an example.

See, this is where I can't really follow you to the end. Even if I disagree I can understand Hot Rod's hood and even Optimus' grille. But the "bumper" is one of those things that looks irreconcilably different, especially if you want a more realistic alt. mode. When the original MP Prime came out I loved that they found a way to get both bumpers right.

If they made Prime your way the robot mode wouldn't really look much like Prime proportionally speaking. I don't think it would look very appealing in robot mode, though. Not if it's G1 Prime. If it were a different Prime who was designed to work that way then it's a different story.

Maybe photoshop something? On the face of it it seems like it would look really bad.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, they're faux-parts in that any attempt to implement what I call the "Dery Diaper" in lieu of just leaving the real bumper is; they replace the bumper with the thing the animation warps it into in robot mode. Robotmasters is a fairly unobtrusive example since it just segments it and slaps the segments on the hips, but it is an example.

See, this is where I can't really follow you to the end. Even if I disagree I can understand Hot Rod's hood and even Optimus' grille. But the "bumper" is one of those things that looks irreconcilably different, especially if you want a more realistic alt. mode. When the original MP Prime came out I loved that they found a way to get both bumpers right.

Well see, I think when something looks that irreconcilably different, when it's been warped that badly by the animation design, then the animation's distorted version should generally be tossed out the window and good riddance.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If they made Prime your way the robot mode wouldn't really look much like Prime proportionally speaking. I don't think it would look very appealing in robot mode, though. Not if it's G1 Prime. If it were a different Prime who was designed to work that way then it's a different story.

Maybe photoshop something? On the face of it it seems like it would look really bad.

I don't think I really need Photoshop because what I'm talking about is this. This bumper right here. The real bumper. Where it is on the G1 toy, as it looks on the G1 toy. Just on a hinge (and with the red plastic below it gone) so that it doesn't get in the way of leg articulation.
Looks decent to me. I suppose you could also have hinges in the bumper itself that bring the sides closer to the tires, for a more "wrapped around the waist" look. If that's not enough for you to picture it I'll try and draw something up after finals

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

I don't think I really need Photoshop because what I'm talking about is this. This bumper right here. The real bumper. Where it is on the G1 toy, as it looks on the G1 toy. Just on a hinge (and with the red plastic below it gone) so that it doesn't get in the way of leg articulation.
Looks decent to me. I suppose you could also have hinges in the bumper itself that bring the sides closer to the tires, for a more "wrapped around the waist" look. If that's not enough for you to picture it I'll try and draw something up after finals

Technically earthrise prime can already do something like that.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well see, I think when something looks that irreconcilably different, when it's been warped that badly by the animation design, then the animation's distorted version should generally be tossed out the window and good riddance.


I don't think I really need Photoshop because what I'm talking about is this. This bumper right here. The real bumper. Where it is on the G1 toy, as it looks on the G1 toy. Just on a hinge (and with the red plastic below it gone) so that it doesn't get in the way of leg articulation.
Looks decent to me. I suppose you could also have hinges in the bumper itself that bring the sides closer to the tires, for a more "wrapped around the waist" look. If that's not enough for you to picture it I'll try and draw something up after finals

So, for real ....



That's your ideal? I mean I get wanting a simpler, uncomplicated transformation. And I also get wanting no faux parts, that part of the fun of a transformer is that a vehicle turns into a robot, not a robot that pretends to have vehicle parts. But I think you're skewing too far towards vehicle mode supremacy. The robot mode has to look good too in a modern sense.

Just try and mod the G1 toy to give it better leg movement as an experiment to see if it'd work. I'll be happy with Earthrise Prime.

Just don't think of his codpiece as his bumper, problem solved!

While i still not too happy with his trailer, i am grateful that his repair drone can be detached and used as optimus's backpack. Thanks to that, it adds extra connection points, and enable me to really deck him out with weaponries.



And after handling this figure for a few days, i do admit that this is indeed a nice, solid figure, and worth the higher than voyager price. That being said, i still think full leader price is too much. At 30% discount however, well worth it.

I got wave 2 of the Micromasters today, and they're all fairly decent. Some of the joints on the Race Track Patrol are a bit stiff, and it's a pain getting Blast Master to stand up in robot mode, but otherwise, good stuff. I think I'll get one more Autobot Micromaster duo, probably eiher the Hot Rod Patrol or the Seige Battle Patrol, but I'm still undecided on whether or not to get the Modulators.

bacem wrote:While i still not too happy with his trailer, i am grateful that his repair drone can be detached and used as optimus's backpack. Thanks to that, it adds extra connection points, and enable me to really deck him out with weaponries.

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And after handling this figure for a few days, i do admit that this is indeed a nice, solid figure, and worth the higher than voyager price. That being said, i still think full leader price is too much. At 30% discount however, well worth it.

What weapons are those? Prime wouldn't need "apex" armour with that load out!

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well see, I think when something looks that irreconcilably different, when it's been warped that badly by the animation design, then the animation's distorted version should generally be tossed out the window and good riddance.


I don't think I really need Photoshop because what I'm talking about is this. This bumper right here. The real bumper. Where it is on the G1 toy, as it looks on the G1 toy. Just on a hinge (and with the red plastic below it gone) so that it doesn't get in the way of leg articulation.
Looks decent to me. I suppose you could also have hinges in the bumper itself that bring the sides closer to the tires, for a more "wrapped around the waist" look. If that's not enough for you to picture it I'll try and draw something up after finals

So, for real ....



That's your ideal? I mean I get wanting a simpler, uncomplicated transformation. And I also get wanting no faux parts, that part of the fun of a transformer is that a vehicle turns into a robot, not a robot that pretends to have vehicle parts. But I think you're skewing too far towards vehicle mode supremacy. The robot mode has to look good too in a modern sense.

Well, first of all, that doesn't look too bad in my opinion.

But no, sticking that rigidly to the G1 toy design isn't my ideal. When I made that post I was zeroing in on how I preferred the bumper because I thought you were trying to ask me to specifically explain that.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:There's a reason I put a pic of the original (okay, it's a reissue, but) G1 toy in my last post. What I'm talking about is a Prime that largely looks like this except with:
1. The panels on the backs of the shoulders moved to his back to make the cartoon's backpack
2. Square forearms like the cartoon
3. Cartoon-style (at least somewhat) abdominal slopes achieved by flipping the front fenders (which would now no longer be attached to the forearms) up into the empty space left by the arms
4. The front wheels and bumper being hinged similarly to Cybertron Optimus' hip wheels and faux-bumper:

Here's the full list of proposals from earlier in the thread.

Alternatively, you could have the ab slopes be popout pieces and deal with the fenders another way... I'll post concept drawings to hopefully better show I'm thinking of.

Quantum Surge wrote:Just try and mod the G1 toy to give it better leg movement as an experiment to see if it'd work. I'll be happy with Earthrise Prime.

Made an abortive attempt at that once, back when I was inept and had no parts resources. But that wouldn't really make for a good modern G1 Prime toy.

The existing Prime I'll be happy with for now is CW. He has his own compromises and faux-parts (mechanically necessitated by combining in his case) usage, but I like his size and his cleaner transformation better so... *shrug*

Well, my fav Prime is still Henkei Prime. Still. I'm used to him on the shelf, and I still like all the 3rd party accessories I've got for him. And he matches City Commander and the Japanese Nemesis Prime. And I like his colors more than ER Prime.

Earthrise is the better toy overall. But I still have my preferences.

Hopefully that dovetails back into more relevant conversation.

Well, in terms of relevant I'm scheming on an additional accessory for Snapdragon: A drone based off the Lockheed D-21 that can possibly act as a shield in robot mode. It'd also be a "seat a Titan Master" accessory for him.

Well, Ratchet finally arrived. With his shoulder frozen. The joint broke when I tried to transform him, but his arm is still in there since it's just stuck in there.

Amazon's all out of the set too. And it's a ton of money off ebay.

God dammit. I'm not even that into this stupid toy.