Transformers: Age of Extinction Opens in Japan - Interview with Bay, Wahlberg and More
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His latest, “Transformers: Age of Extinction,” promises more of the action and explosions Bay is known for, but the director reportedly almost didn’t take the job this time around. He’s not saying why, but he admits he was “prevailed upon. Expertly.” Coming back on board for a fourth time, he decided to make a few changes to the franchise. In particular, he didn’t want the robots to look too much like toys.
“I understand the need to draw an audience of kids and the global considerations, but I wanted to be involved with something that had a longer-lasting, even cerebral appeal. And I don’t want to be tied — artistically or in people’s minds — to ‘Transformers’ after ‘Transformers,’ ” he says, perhaps alluding to the series’ planned fifth installment.
While the Japanese roots of “Transformers” may be apparent in the design of the robotic heroes and villains of the film, the “global considerations” Bay refers to come mainly from the newly important Chinese market.
“Transformers: Age of Extinction” was partly financed by Chinese backers, has Chinese product placement and co-stars Li Bingbing as the owner of a factory manufacturing Transformers for a U.S. outfit named KSI. Bay says that cooperation between China and the United States for future filmmaking ventures will be important. The tendency of Hollywood to cast the citizens of foreign nations in villainous roles might be coming to an end if that’s the case, I suggest, to which Bay replies, “I don’t think the Chinese see themselves as villains. They do want to be admired.”
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Grammer, who played the titular role in the popular U.S. sitcom “Frasier” (1993-2004) takes on the role of Harold Attinger, the paranoid head of an elite CIA unit.
“His name’s Harold — isn’t that a perfect, anal-retentive, paranoiac name?” Grammer says with a grin. “Then you have Cade, pretty much an average Joe, and his daughter Tessa (Peltz) — these wonderful names! Stanley Tucci is this arrogant technocrat (head of KSI) who wants to make and control his own Transformers, and his name is Joshua Joyce. It’s a bit comic-bookey, but it really works on screen.”
“Transformers: Age of Extinction” has succeeded in drawing in a large audience despite replacing its cast, and Grammar believes this is because the film brings back the real draw — familiar robotic characters.
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Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on August 8th, 2014 @ 3:30am CDT
Va'al wrote:...The tendency of Hollywood to cast the citizens of foreign nations in villainous roles might be coming to an end if that’s the case, I suggest, to which Bay replies, “I don’t think the Chinese see themselves as villains. They do want to be admired."
Frankly, I don't think ANY particular race sees themselves as villains.
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 8th, 2014 @ 7:08am CDT
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on August 8th, 2014 @ 11:11am CDT
chivesbot20 wrote:I thought Stinger was cool, but I felt no emphasis on the character throughout the movie. I felt he was a higher advanced drone. But the way he dies is pretty awesome. And I hope they have a deleted scene of the autobots going after stinger because They disappear through that whole scene
I bet that there is a whole bunch of deleted scenes in this movie. If you go to YouTube and watch a bunch of TF4 filming videos there is a whole bunch of things that weren't seen in the movie. Some examples, the large explosions at a Chinese pagoda in Detroit, Cade running towards the camera with his gun-blade in Hong Kong, Stinger tailing the Autobots in Hong Kong, the sports cars driving around in Hong Kong, the argument with an Asian guy and two cops, Shane almost hitting a couple of people in the Texas street chase, Shane's car being blocked by Attinger's men, the Autobots rolling in Hong Kong in an alley, and so much more.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 8th, 2014 @ 11:16am CDT
No, ROTF's IMAX version doesn't count since those were put into the feature presentation, just as they were when that film aired on IMAX. So those scenes weren't completely "deleted".
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 8th, 2014 @ 11:55am CDT
Posted by Sub-Prime on August 8th, 2014 @ 3:12pm CDT
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:chivesbot20 wrote:I thought Stinger was cool, but I felt no emphasis on the character throughout the movie. I felt he was a higher advanced drone. But the way he dies is pretty awesome. And I hope they have a deleted scene of the autobots going after stinger because They disappear through that whole scene
I bet that there is a whole bunch of deleted scenes in this movie. If you go to YouTube and watch a bunch of TF4 filming videos there is a whole bunch of things that weren't seen in the movie. Some examples, the large explosions at a Chinese pagoda in Detroit, Cade running towards the camera with his gun-blade in Hong Kong, Stinger tailing the Autobots in Hong Kong, the sports cars driving around in Hong Kong, the argument with an Asian guy and two cops, Shane almost hitting a couple of people in the Texas street chase, Shane's car being blocked by Attinger's men, the Autobots rolling in Hong Kong in an alley, and so much more.
Also let's not forget BumbleeBee and Hound dancing.
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 8th, 2014 @ 4:03pm CDT
Posted by Sub-Prime on August 8th, 2014 @ 4:05pm CDT
chivesbot20 wrote:Just saw ninja turtles and it was very good.
That's good to hear. Anything about the film you didn't like?
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 8th, 2014 @ 5:01pm CDT
Posted by Burn on August 8th, 2014 @ 5:38pm CDT
Posted by Blast Cannon on August 9th, 2014 @ 6:34am CDT
Burn wrote:Maybe use this thread?
That would involve using common sense. Sadly there is nothing common about it.
Posted by SlyTF1 on August 11th, 2014 @ 12:06am CDT
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 11th, 2014 @ 9:27am CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on August 11th, 2014 @ 11:34am CDT
chivesbot20 wrote:What SlyTF1?
The guns that the KSI drones fire in the movie. That one part after Optimus breaks the cage, freeing Grimlock, where it cuts to them firing at Hound and Bumblebee. I like the sound they make.
At 0:04
I like that sound.
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 11th, 2014 @ 12:44pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 11th, 2014 @ 12:50pm CDT
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 11th, 2014 @ 1:01pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 11th, 2014 @ 11:26pm CDT
One can be a Cybertronian and belong to neither faction.chivesbot20 wrote:It was kind of random of me to say that, but he seemed just different compared to the rest. For example, when Optimus is fighting Galvatron and Lockdown comes, when his gun fave transforms, small tentacles can be seen coming out of his face while transforming. I just was stating what I thought. Maybe I should say, not exactly the same as a Cybertronion.
And if one goes by the greater Movieverse continuity, he used to be a Decepticon when he appeared in the Cyber Missions cartoon, the Unite for the Universe manga, and the Nefarious comic series. Since some time would have past between those events and the AOE movie's events, it's entirely possible that he left the Cons and sided with the Creators during the intermediate time.
Posted by RSDADDIMUS2 on August 12th, 2014 @ 12:16pm CDT
I follow only the films,not the comics as they constantly contradict, so I'm no authority. This is just how I picture him.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 12th, 2014 @ 12:30pm CDT
Like, "The Reign of Starscream" fixed Brawl's calling himself "Devastator" from the first movie, and showed what happened to Barricade when he just vanished in the first movie.
"Sector 7" and "Foundation" patched up a whole network of continuity errors created by ROTF, while also prepping us for DOTM.
And "Convergence" fixed just about every remaining inconsistency and oddity across all three films and all IDW movieverse comics, such as finally explaining how The Fallen got out of his sarcophagus prior to ROTF when he was still trapped within it after the Nemesis it was aboard left Cybertron.
Posted by william-james88 on August 12th, 2014 @ 1:07pm CDT
If this has already been posted, please forgive me. But if not then...
Here are 4 more great peices of Age of Extinction Concept art featuring the Bumblebee and Stinger design. The blue Bumblebee design is particularly interesting since it has a head very reminescent of the Dinobots' robot heads.
http://bwtf.com/node/3471
Posted by Va'al on August 12th, 2014 @ 1:19pm CDT
Posted by steve2275 on August 12th, 2014 @ 1:58pm CDT
Posted by RSDADDIMUS2 on August 12th, 2014 @ 3:46pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's the comics that work to undo the contradictions set about by the movies. Virtually every post-movie comic has done something to fix some kind of continuity error created by each film that came before them.RSDADDIMUS2 wrote: I follow only the films,not the comics as they constantly contradict, so I'm no authority. This is just how I picture him.
Like, "The Reign of Starscream" fixed Brawl's calling himself "Devastator" from the first movie, and showed what happened to Barricade when he just vanished in the first movie.
"Sector 7" and "Foundation" patched up a whole network of continuity errors created by ROTF, while also prepping us for DOTM.
And "Convergence" fixed just about every remaining inconsistency and oddity across all three films and all IDW movieverse comics, such as finally explaining how The Fallen got out of his sarcophagus prior to ROTF when he was still trapped within it after the Nemesis it was aboard left Cybertron.
I was told the opposite.Hrmm.I might have to pick them up. Thanks for the heads up!!
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on August 13th, 2014 @ 12:36am CDT
I'm probably the only one who likes the head design on this pic than the "Skeletor" face of the finalized Bumblebee.
Don't get me wrong; I'm okay with (read: gotten used to) the actual movieverse Bee's face, but if given a choice, I prefer this one.
Actually, his finalized battle mask is awesome; I'd just prefer it if it stayed on permanently.
Posted by monstrinhotron on August 13th, 2014 @ 5:29am CDT
For an example of good design and what i really wish the movie transformers looked like, have a look at the design on Toyworld's TW02b Black Orion figure
http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/toyworld-tw- ... orion.html
You've got the clear silhouette, the larger forms and the intricate detail. I'd say this figure is detailed enough that it would negate Mr Bay's problem with G1-esque designs. That they would look too simple and boring onscreen. Oh for what might have been.
Posted by Va'al on August 13th, 2014 @ 5:34am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 13th, 2014 @ 6:27am CDT
Also to the person who mentioned toyworlds Orion, in my opinion I don't consider it good design, it barely looks like the character it's supposed to be.
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 13th, 2014 @ 10:29am CDT
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 13th, 2014 @ 10:31am CDT
Posted by RSDADDIMUS2 on August 13th, 2014 @ 11:01am CDT
chivesbot20 wrote:Who else thinks the front cover with optimus standing holding his sword in the Chinese valley is boring
Yeah.that one is pretty lame.
Posted by Blast Cannon on August 13th, 2014 @ 11:11am CDT
RSDADDIMUS2 wrote:chivesbot20 wrote:Who else thinks the front cover with optimus standing holding his sword in the Chinese valley is boring
Yeah.that one is pretty lame.
YOU'RE LAME.
Posted by Bouncy X on August 13th, 2014 @ 12:58pm CDT
EDIT: i checked and even the regular blu-ray and the dvd shows the december 31st date. since we already know this comes at the end of september, then its definitely temp dates.
Posted by Emerje on August 13th, 2014 @ 5:44pm CDT
Emerje
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on August 13th, 2014 @ 9:07pm CDT
monstrinhotron wrote:The thing about the bayformers that I never liked was the misunderstanding of good design. First of all you need to make a simple and distinct silhouette, then some larger forms with clear purpose and then smaller features to add detail where necessary. The Bayformers are ALL detail in a confusing mess with no clear purpose. Sometimes it's hard to tell if something is even an arm. While these are talented and well executed images, they aren't very well designed.
For an example of good design and what i really wish the movie transformers looked like, have a look at the design on Toyworld's TW02b Black Orion figure
http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/toyworld-tw- ... orion.html
You've got the clear silhouette, the larger forms and the intricate detail. I'd say this figure is detailed enough that it would negate Mr Bay's problem with G1-esque designs. That they would look too simple and boring onscreen. Oh for what might have been.
I'm of the same opinion, to a degree.
The whole thing with the super-complex designs started with Bay wanting to evoke the feel of "mechanical muscles" on the TF's, so they won't look so "man made". Hence, the exposed pistons and gears. I personally think it was a good idea, and it does bridge that gap between being robots, but alien ones that look like they evolved on their own. The thing is, Bay's not one for subtlety or over-thinking a concept, so don't expect him to worry about purpose or practicality.
Personally, I think the original 2007 movie and ROTF designs are fine, in that they are still quite recognizable in shape and silhouette despite the numerous details. It was in DOTM where they started getting lazy, and began hiding car parts using even more "smoke and mirrors" visual trickery. You can clearly see DOTM Megatron's truck parts folding into him and disappearing. The Dreads cheated just as much.
Posted by RSDADDIMUS2 on August 13th, 2014 @ 9:17pm CDT
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 14th, 2014 @ 8:40pm CDT
Posted by kaijuguy19 on August 16th, 2014 @ 8:39pm CDT
I mean if you're going by the Japanese continuity of both the show and movies it could happen like this of how I think it could occur. After the events of season 3 of TFA, space bridges are now made to the point of going into different directions. Sentinel finally had enough of how Optimus and the Autobots do things and decided to break Megatron out and made a deal with him secretly to make sure they both get what they wanted. Afterwards Megatron and his Decepticons trash Cybertron apart then the Allspark was flung into space with Megatron going after it into an alternate demension which does lead into the events of movie 1 of him being trapped in ice. Then the main Autobot cast gets upgraded into the movie forms and follow after with the Decepticons in trail with one of Starscream's clones being Movie Starscream and Soundwave being a part of the group. Hound could be like Ironhide/Bulkhead's twin brother and Drift being one of Yoketron's student and honoring Prolw by looking like him in a sense.
Sari herself could be of the same type of TFs Alice was in ROTF and for the Dinobots it can be argued that in AOE they're the same ones from TFA with Scorn being a new member. Also small things like Ratchet in AOE knowing Lockdown and Optimus's comment of Bee being difficult to handle in the same movie do bring in mind Animated.
It could be me just ovethinking this or having too much time on my hands but still even if the idea of Animated being a prequel to the movies is silly due to Takara's odd reason to mesh some shows together even if they don't make sense why it's still a funny idea and seeing as how AOE is strongly influenced by animated helps this even more. lol
Posted by Sabrblade on August 16th, 2014 @ 9:47pm CDT
Nope. Cuz that ultimately didn't pan out.kaijuguy19 wrote:Remember back in 2010 when Takara tried to make Animated into a prequel series for the movies?
Though it was the initial plan for the series's Japanese dub, the Japanese ended up dubbing it faithfully to the English version, albeit with some edits made to it for specific reasons, but ones that differ from the aborted "movie prequel" plan.
Posted by kaijuguy19 on August 16th, 2014 @ 10:45pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Nope. Cuz that ultimately didn't pan out.kaijuguy19 wrote:Remember back in 2010 when Takara tried to make Animated into a prequel series for the movies?
Though it was the initial plan for the series's Japanese dub, the Japanese ended up dubbing it faithfully to the Japanese version, albeit with some edits made to it for specific reasons, but ones that differ from the aborted "movie prequel" plan.
Really? Huh I honestly didn't know that.
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 17th, 2014 @ 9:32am CDT
Posted by RSDADDIMUS2 on August 17th, 2014 @ 9:57am CDT
The Stunticons never did it for me.My favorite Combiners were the Combaticons and Bruticus
Posted by Sabrblade on August 17th, 2014 @ 4:58pm CDT
What... does this have to do with AOE?chivesbot20 wrote:Who wanted cyclonus and or motor master when the movie was in production
Posted by Shumi Nagaremono on August 17th, 2014 @ 8:01pm CDT
http://youtu.be/krwpedPXRRU
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 18th, 2014 @ 8:44am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:What... does this have to do with AOE?chivesbot20 wrote:Who wanted cyclonus and or motor master when the movie was in production
They were said to be in the movie at first, rumor of motor master but definantly Cyclonus.
Posted by SlyTF1 on August 18th, 2014 @ 10:36am CDT
Posted by Blast Cannon on August 18th, 2014 @ 10:43am CDT
chivesbot20 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What... does this have to do with AOE?chivesbot20 wrote:Who wanted cyclonus and or motor master when the movie was in production
They were said to be in the movie at first, rumor of motor master but definantly Cyclonus.
Hi mate. Could you lay off snorting castor oil? Ta.
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 18th, 2014 @ 12:08pm CDT
Posted by Blast Cannon on August 18th, 2014 @ 3:36pm CDT
chivesbot20 wrote:What!
Come on son keep up.
Posted by chivesbot20 on August 18th, 2014 @ 6:37pm CDT