Robots In Disguise Combiner Force Legion Class Toys Found at Retail in Australia

Cobotron wrote:Hullz ye-YA! For the two new guys.

Check out Starscream. Is he a retool of Legions Windblade? His forearms/hands and thighs are the same as hers, so they're parts sharing. Looks like the transformation might be real similar/the same.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Hullz ye-YA! For the two new guys.

Check out Starscream. Is he a retool of Legions Windblade? His forearms/hands and thighs are the same as hers, so they're parts sharing. Looks like the transformation might be real similar/the same.

I would say Starscream is a retool. I'd be really surprised if it isn't.

RAR wrote:It's so confusing to put the "Combiner Force" tag line on toys that don't combine.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:This is the first we have heard of legions Starscream and Springload. That is out of left field, and they look cool!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Hullz ye-YA! For the two new guys.

Check out Starscream. Is he a retool of Legions Windblade? His forearms/hands and thighs are the same as hers, so they're parts sharing. Looks like the transformation might be real similar/the same.

I would say Starscream is a retool. I'd be really surprised if it isn't.

I'm comparing images and only the arms and upper legs are the same. Everything else is new, but the transformation looks the same, just like the Warrior Class.

Ugh, we need a new definition of "Retool" and "Reshell", first Titans Return and now RiD 2015!

Maximal Rainmaker wrote:So what's the difference between Grimlock and Prime? They look like reissues.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Like the Combiner Wars Leaders? It's just a new subline imprint... the second in a year's time!

psj333 wrote:Great! A Legion-class Springload. I'm glad that this time he finally turns into a pickup truck this time. This could mean two things: A Warrior-class Springload is still in the works, in which I'm hoping for, and this means he will eventually return for Season 3. And for Combiner force Starscream? Wait, didn't he did get imprisoned or not? I don't know. All I do know for sure that Starscream isn't killed, as he was saved by Optimus himself, as Starscream is too famous and popular to be killed, and if he did, the entire show would be over for good. Thankfully, it didn't. Hasbro, you're getting there, finally. Keep it up, guys. Don't ever give up!

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Springload is so adorable. I will get him again

Bronzewolf wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Springload is so adorable. I will get him again

His vehicle mode SCREAMS G1 Minibot. I love it.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Springload is so adorable. I will get him again

His vehicle mode SCREAMS G1 Minibot. I love it.

I want him so that way I can give the cons 2 pets, like how my legion Underbite acts like a little doggy to the rest of the cons.

Bumblebee21 wrote:i might have to get that springload looks cool.
before they do a warrior sized springload they need to do underbite.
starscream looks ugly
more importantly where's my news cred at.

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:i might have to get that springload looks cool.
before they do a warrior sized springload they need to do underbite.
starscream looks ugly
more importantly where's my news cred at.

Wouldnt a warrior underbite be too small?

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:i might have to get that springload looks cool.
before they do a warrior sized springload they need to do underbite.
starscream looks ugly
more importantly where's my news cred at.

Wouldnt a warrior underbite be too small?

Kurona wrote:Strongarm's been retooled into Ratchet, Windblade into Starscream...

If this bee-team-into-tfp-characters keeps up, who wants to bet we'll see Bumblebee and Sideswipe into Wheeljack and Smokescreen?

RAR wrote:I don't think there is a need really to make many more Legions for RID - heck they might not make ANY more

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Thinking more about it, I think Starscream just shares some parts with Windblade. I just remembered, that the arms were directly attached to the wings, while on Starscream it's an entirely separate arm/shoulder unit.

Kurona wrote:It is a bit odd they were neglected. Maybe between showing off their new toyline theme and the new Warriors - ie, the main thing most older fans are interested in from this line - there just wasn't space?
I'm not complaining, nice to get a surprise once in a while.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:It is a bit odd they were neglected. Maybe between showing off their new toyline theme and the new Warriors - ie, the main thing most older fans are interested in from this line - there just wasn't space?
I'm not complaining, nice to get a surprise once in a while.

The warriors puzzle me too. They were both autobots and there were only 2 of them. There are usually at least 3 warriors revealed, but we saw only two that time right?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:- that white Autobot Drift redeco

Starscream from Wave 1 of the Combiner Force subline imprint of RiD legions

ROBOT MODE

This new legion scaled Starscream does a good job at replicating the shape and detail of his show model.

The large wings and broad shoulders give Starscream a regal and intimidating appearance. Although, he does look a bit skinny

Moulded in silver and light blue plastics. Starscream feature black paint on his helmet, red on the rims of his chest intakes, pelvis, and along his wings, blue paint on the tops of his shoulders, fuselage and his feet and orange plastic on the cockpit
And of course a sticker for the RiD app on his left wing. (Note: combiner force toys aren't unlocked when scanned into the app, instead they give a ticket to use with Cryostase to unlock a random character in the game - I got hammer)
The paint layout and amount of paint apps on such a small figure really help make Starscream look nice and worth the price to purchase.

Poseability

In terms of poseability, we are dealing with a legion class here, so there's not much to speak of. Although Starscream fares better than some others in the line.
Having ball jointed hips, hinged knees hat can bend just short of 90 degrees, multiple hinges in the shoulders (although, most are only really useful for transformation) and similar to Windblade, he has odd ball joints at his elbows. In fact. The lower arms on Starscream are the exact same as windblade!

Speaking of windblade. The two share very similar transformation schemes. And you'd be forgiven for thinking they were just remoulded of each other
However, besides the forearms, they don't appear to share any parts from what I can see.

TRANSFORMATION

To transform Starscream, it's very simple. As is normal for this size class.
1: peg the legs together
2: fold the fuselage/Nosecone on the back up over the head and peg it in place
3: fold the wings down
4: fold the shoulder pads down on the hinges along with the elbow pieces to straighten them down along the sides of the torso
5: peg the hands onto the pegs on the undersides of the wings.

VEHICLE MODE

From above, Starscream's vehicle mode looks quite good. From underneath however, well... It looks like he's reaching down to hold his wings in place.
Another oddity on the underside is that like a few other figures recently, he has a landing gear moulded into the Nosecone but no wheels anywhere else. Instead he rests on his kneecaps and toes

For the size class, I can't complain much about this vehicle mode, yeah it could have been better. But it's fine for what it is.

The paint apps work well to make the vehicle mode look nice
With the red wings, orange cockpit and blue nose cone to break up all the grey a bit.

All in all legion Starscream is just that. A legion Starscream. It's nothing amazing. But it has a few neat things that make it worth a look

FINAL THOUGHTS

Overall I'd rate it a B-
Losing a couple of marks for the awkward elbows, lack of rear wheels and borrowing Windblade's forearms.

If you're interested, its probably worth picking up, it is a cheap figure after all.
Definitely worth grabbing for a completionist
But I wouldn't say it's worth running out to get ASAP

Springload from Wave 1 of the Combiner Force subline imprint of RiD legions

PRAISE DORADUS!!
The paranoid Amphiboid, Springload has made a handful of appearances in the cartoon over the first two seasons. and his fate was left unclear at the end of season 2 since he was oddly absent from the season finale. a treasure hunter, obsessed with finding the fabled city of Doradus. Springload has a ... loose grip on reality at the best of times. and will attack anyone who gets in the way of his search for the fabled city.

up until now, Springload has only had 1 toy released in the RiD toyline, a One-Step changer from right before the "minicon weaponizer" subline imprint. now it's finally time for a more complex figure.

ROBOT MODE

Springload's body is rather, untraditional, in that he pretty much looks like a mechanical frog. which the designers managed to replicate here remarkably well. whereas the One-Step figure was much flatter and wider, particularly in the head. Legion Springload looks MUCH more faithful to his show mode. even having tiny fake wheels molded onto his shoulder kibble to replicate the placement of his wheels on the show model.

Springload's front legs are long, very long. whilst his back legs are much shorter and are molded in a more frog like posture. like the fake wheels on his shoulders, springload also has fake wheels to act as his back feet to mimic the show model as well. the best part of Springload's Mould is definitely his face, it's shaped very accurately to his show model, with large eyes, angy eyebrows, and lots of pointy teeth in his mouth.

The only downside to Springload's robot mode is that he is VERY hollow underneath. but for a Legion class figure, its understandable and not as big an issue.
another slight downside is that even by legion standards, Springload is tiny. he is really really tiny.

in terms of his Colour scheme, Springload is very eye catching. molded mostly in a bright lime green colour with some black plastic on the wheels at the back of his body.

to compliment this very froggy colour, Springload has some cyan paint on his front legs, and the roof of his vehicle mode, which sits just behind his head in robot mod. his front windscreen, side windows and fake wheels, are all painted black, and his eyebrows are painted dark blue which works GREAT for the eyebrows. especially with the red paint of his eyes. Springload's lower back/ vehicle mode hood is painted a darker shade of green, and finally his teeth on both his top and bottom jaw are painted white.

all in all this is a great colour scheme. although when just taking a quick look at him, the blues and greens all sort of blend into each other.

Springload also of course features a sticker for the RiD app on his back/ car roof (Note: Combiner Force toys aren't unlocked when scanned into the app, instead they give a ticket to use with Cryostase to unlock a random character in the game - I got Anvil)

POSEABILITY

For Poseablility Springload is pretty impressive for a legion. having hinges at his back hips to rotate his back legs forward and backward for jumping poses. Springload's front legs are even more Poseable, being able to rotate at the sides of his torso/vehicle mode and having hinges at the elbows. you can also rotate the side panels of his robot mode with the arms attacked to them out as well. but this is more for transformation. and finally, Springloads lower jaw can open and close for Doradus shouting action!! (sadly no tongue in his mouth, although there is a slight notch moulded into his lower jaw, so perhaps a shapeways tongue may come someday.

TRANSFORMATION

Springload's transformation is simple, but effective.
1: fold his lower jaw back and into the hollow cavity under his body
2: fold the side panels the arms are attacked to around and cover (most of) Springload's face and form the back of his vehicle mode
3: fold the front robot legs up into the underside of the vehicle mode
4: Bring the back legs down slightly
5: grabbing the hips, rotate them out and around so the legs are now on the inside and the real wheels are now revealed and on the outside.
6: fold the back legs up and into the underside of the body.

VEHICLE MODE

Springload's vehicle mode is a triumph, unlike his previous One-Step release, which changed his vehicle mode into some sort of muscle car. this new Legion class Springload manages to give him a Pickup Truck alt-mode closer to his show model.

there are however a few issues with the vehicle mode.
first and formost. Springload's robot mode face is visible in the back up his vehicle mode, in the truck bed. although really, springload being paranoid enough that he needs to be constantly looking behind him while driving sounds like something he would do.

another slight issue is the black hingest under his side windows look a little out of place, similar to the Hasbro version of Warrior Thunderhoof.
and another issue is that the front grill of the vehicle mode is only painted on the very top of it. the rest being unpainted black plastic.

Despite these issues its a charming little vehicle mode that still looks more accurate than the one-step.
He also rolls quite well

FINAL THOUGHTS

Legion Springload is easily the better of the two new moulds released in this wave. and only some of that is my personal bias (Springload is one of my favourite decepticons in RiD2015) he may be really really small. but hes a great little legion figure.

Overal I'd rate him an A-
so close to being the perfect legion Springload and dethroning Fixit as the best legion in this toyline, if it weren't for a few minor issues with his vehicle mode.

Despite that I'd say he is Definitely worth picking up once he hits mass retail. as long as you think you are worthy~

King Kuuga wrote:But Scourge and Highbrow ARE retools. It doesn't appear that Windblade and Starscream are, though.

King Kuuga wrote:But Scourge and Highbrow ARE retools. It doesn't appear that Windblade and Starscream are, though.

2 development and at the same time

william-james88 wrote:Doesnt a retool mean that one has to be based off the other? If you cant tell which is the retool of which then technically none are retools. At least that how I see it.