Power of the Primes Wave 1 Voyagers and Prime Masters found at US retail
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Regarding the voyagers, we also have a pictorial review of Starscream for those who want to know more about the figure before purchasing. And there might be some hesitation because this news also shows us the price these voyagers are going for: $29.99 USD. This is the MSRP price jump indicated by Hasbro in their official product descriptions. The Prime Masters also show that price jump in comparison to Titan Masters, where they are $5.99 USD, so one dollar more. The Deluxes however, show a price of $16.99 which is less than the $19.99 MSRP. You can see all MSRPs per class here.
These toys are also listed on the Toysrus website but not currently available. We did place a screenshot below to show the prices of each class. These are the hottest toys right now among the fan community so please post your findings in the sightings section and sightings forum.
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Posted 12 hours agoPosted by Flashwave on December 15th, 2017 @ 8:52pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 15th, 2017 @ 9:11pm CST
... and think unified subgroups are called out now?
Posted by Sabrblade on December 15th, 2017 @ 9:13pm CST
Yeah, it looks like the team combiners are getting their subgroup names attached to their individual names, as the Terrorcons looks to have "Terrorcon" prefixes on them too.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I've been blind for not noticing Grimlock's "Dinobot" prefix. Don't worry, it's a separate trademark, probably for consistency across the other Dinobots who do require prefixes. Think we can expect the same for the Terrorcons?
... and think unified subgroups are called out now?
Posted by Terrsolpix on December 15th, 2017 @ 9:14pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 15th, 2017 @ 9:15pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, it looks like the team combiners are getting their subgroup names attached to their individual names, as the Terrorcons looks to have "Terrorcon" prefixes on them too.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I've been blind for not noticing Grimlock's "Dinobot" prefix. Don't worry, it's a separate trademark, probably for consistency across the other Dinobots who do require prefixes. Think we can expect the same for the Terrorcons?
... and think unified subgroups are called out now?
Yup, they all do, working on that right now
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072MZ2112?tag=seibertron07-20&ta ... formers-20
Posted by william-james88 on December 15th, 2017 @ 9:16pm CST
Terrsolpix wrote:Got grimlock and daaaaaaaamn he’s good. Very solid and has beefy ratchets. The gauntlets work worryingly well and give off a more savage vibe than a sharpened sword. The torso doesn’t fall apart unless you actively try and take him out of the mode. He’s gotten a fairly bad rap but but isn’t nearly as bad as some people claim he is imo.
How solid is the connection of his gold robot chest piece in dinomode?
Posted by Terrsolpix on December 15th, 2017 @ 9:16pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Terrsolpix wrote:Got grimlock and daaaaaaaamn he’s good. Very solid and has beefy ratchets. The gauntlets work worryingly well and give off a more savage vibe than a sharpened sword. The torso doesn’t fall apart unless you actively try and take him out of the mode. He’s gotten a fairly bad rap but but isn’t nearly as bad as some people claim he is imo.
How solid is the connection of his gold robot chest piece in dinomode?
Solid as a rock!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 15th, 2017 @ 9:21pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, it looks like the team combiners are getting their subgroup names attached to their individual names, as the Terrorcons looks to have "Terrorcon" prefixes on them too.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I've been blind for not noticing Grimlock's "Dinobot" prefix. Don't worry, it's a separate trademark, probably for consistency across the other Dinobots who do require prefixes. Think we can expect the same for the Terrorcons?
... and think unified subgroups are called out now?
Yup, they all do, working on that right now
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072MZ2112?tag=seibertron07-20&ta ... formers-20
But it remains to be seen if they're all separate trademarks or not. From official Hasbro use, only Sinnertwin seems to not require a prefix out of the Terrorcons, which is... ironic, with Prime Twinstrike
Where would be a good place to start... the Pretenders, the "Duocons", the Dinobots?
Posted by Budder Prime on December 15th, 2017 @ 9:27pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 15th, 2017 @ 9:33pm CST
Budder Prime wrote:I was at Universal Studios Orlando today, Got the Exclusive snarl, and got see that all of Wave 1 Power of the primes is Available there for those interested.
Including leaders? If you have a picture that would be front page news right away.
Posted by Budder Prime on December 15th, 2017 @ 10:36pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Budder Prime wrote:I was at Universal Studios Orlando today, Got the Exclusive snarl, and got see that all of Wave 1 Power of the primes is Available there for those interested.
Including leaders? If you have a picture that would be front page news right away.
Sadly I didn't see any Leaders, But I guess I should've thought to take a Picture, I was too excited to actually FIND them available.
However all the Legends, Prime Masters, and Deluxes were there for certain. I was actually trying to see anything related to the Prime1 Studios Onslaught, sadly Nothing new has happened since It was teased.
Posted by william-james88 on December 15th, 2017 @ 10:46pm CST
- The Battletrap component included in Legends Class wave 2 is named "Battleslash", not "Battleclash" as some people mistakenly read from the Hasbro leak.
- Tailgate having the same Hasbro product code number as Roadtrap was an error. Roadtrap is really E1158, while Tailgate is actually E1159.
Here is a list with links to the Amazon listings followed by images and product descriptions for those that were available. Clicking the images will let you see them bigger.
Prime Masters wave 2:
Alchemist Prime
Alpha Trion
Prime Masters wave 3:
"Bludgeon" (Quintus Prime)
"Bomb-Burst" (Megatronus)
"Octopunch" (Solus Prime)
Legends Class wave 2:
Tailgate
Battleslash
Roadtrap
Legends Class wave 3:
Cindersaur
Outback
Deluxe Class wave 2, with photos:
Moonracer
Dinobot Snarl
Dinobot Sludge
Blackwing
Terrorcon Rippersnapper
Deluxe Class wave 3:
Terrorcon Cutthroat
Terrorcon Blot
Terrorcon Sinnertwin
Deluxe Class wave 4:
Novastar
Voyager Class wave 2:
Elita-1
Terrorcon Hun-Gurrr
Voyager Class wave 3:
Inferno
Leader Class wave 1:
Evolution Optimus Prime
Evolution Rodimus Prime
Leader Class wave 2:
Evolution Rodimus Unicronus
Leader Class wave 3:
Evolution Optimus Primal
Deluxe Class Autobot Moonracer
Converts from robot mode to sports car mode in 14 steps
Comes with a Prime Armor accessory and a collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (not included)
Wield the Power of the Primes with the joyful Autobot sharpshooter
Includes Deluxe Class Autobot Moonracer figure, Prime Armor accessory, blaster accessory, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.
Deluxe Class Dinobot Snarl
Converts from robot mode to stegosaurus mode in 13 steps
Comes with a Prime Armor accessory and a collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (not included)
Wield the Power of the Primes with the surly, combat-hungry Dinobot
Includes Deluxe Class Dinobot Snarl figure, Prime Armor accessory, blaster accessory, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.
Deluxe Class Dinobot Sludge
Converts from robot mode to brontosaurus mode in 20 steps
Comes with a Prime Armor accessory and a collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (not included)
Wield the Power of the Primes with the Decepticon-stomping Dinobot warrior
Includes Deluxe Class Dinobot Sludge figure, Prime Armor accessory, blaster accessory, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.
Deluxe Class Blackwing
Converts from robot mode to jet mode in 14 steps
Comes with a Prime Armor accessory and a collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (not included)
Wield the Power of the Primes with the dark-minded Decepticon mercenary
Includes Deluxe Class Blackwing figure, Prime Armor accessory, 2 blaster accessories, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.
Deluxe Class Terrorcon Rippersnapper
Converts from robot mode to land shark mode in 14 steps
Comes with a Prime Armor accessory and a collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (not included)
Wield the Power of the Primes with the Terrorcon ground attack specialist
Includes Deluxe Class Rippersnapper figure, Prime Armor accessory, blaster accessory, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.
Figure evolves from Orion Pax to Optimus Prime
Comes with a Matrix of Leadership accessory
Works with Prime Master figures (Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)
Comes with a collectible character card
Converts from robot to tractor-trailer in 33 steps
Includes Leader Class Optimus Prime figure with Evolution Armor, Matrix of Leadership accessory, 2 accessories, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.
Figure evolves from Autobot Hot Rod to Rodimus Prime
Comes with a Matrix of Leadership accessory
Works with Prime Master figures (Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)
Comes with a collectible character card
Converts from robot to tractor-trailer in 28 steps
Includes Leader Class Rodimus Prime figure with Evolution Armor, Matrix of Leadership accessory, 2 accessories, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.
Figure evolves from Nemesis Hot Rod to Rodimus Unicronus
Comes with a Matrix of Chaos accessory
Works with Prime Master figures (Prime Master figures not included. Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)
Comes with a collectible character card
Includes Leader Class Rodimus Unicronus figure with Evolution armor, Matrix of Chaos accessory, 2 weapon accessories, collector card, and instructions
Ages 8 and up
Posted by william-james88 on December 15th, 2017 @ 10:51pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 15th, 2017 @ 10:56pm CST
Budder Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Budder Prime wrote:I was at Universal Studios Orlando today, Got the Exclusive snarl, and got see that all of Wave 1 Power of the primes is Available there for those interested.
Including leaders? If you have a picture that would be front page news right away.
Sadly I didn't see any Leaders, But I guess I should've thought to take a Picture, I was too excited to actually FIND them available.
However all the Legends, Prime Masters, and Deluxes were there for certain. I was actually trying to see anything related to the Prime1 Studios Onslaught, sadly Nothing new has happened since It was teased.
No worries, when I was talking of pictures I meant for the leaders. So since they werent there, its all good.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 15th, 2017 @ 10:58pm CST
- Autobot Outback
- Autobot Tailgate
- Decepticon Bludgeon
- Autobot Moonracer
- Autobot Novastar
That largely falls in line with earlier instances, though "Autobot Outback" is surprising. I don't suppose the USTPO no longer allows Outback Stakehouse the monopoly on the trademark, especially in areas they never use them in?
Posted by william-james88 on December 15th, 2017 @ 11:02pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I don't suppose the USTPO no longer allows Outback Stakehouse the monopoly on the trademark, especially in areas they never use them in?
I guess vampires will have to go elsewhere for their rare meat.
Posted by daoist on December 15th, 2017 @ 11:08pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That largely falls in line with earlier instances, though "Autobot Outback" is surprising. I don't suppose the USTPO no longer allows Outback Stakehouse the monopoly on the trademark, especially in areas they never use them in?
They could be trying to avoid problems with Subaru.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 15th, 2017 @ 11:11pm CST
daoist wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That largely falls in line with earlier instances, though "Autobot Outback" is surprising. I don't suppose the USTPO no longer allows Outback Stakehouse the monopoly on the trademark, especially in areas they never use them in?
They could be trying to avoid problems with Subaru.
Subaru as in the car manufacturer? *does some googling* Ooooooooooooooo, the 2018 Subaru Outback! Good call!
Posted by wolverinetodd on December 15th, 2017 @ 11:14pm CST
Cringingly shudders.
Posted by Skritz on December 16th, 2017 @ 12:07am CST
I just hope we get more stand-alone decepticons in later waves to give him (or any spare torso such as Starscream) a complete limb set.
Edit: You know what? With some way to attach a Titan Master port and some new beast head piece, Rippersnapper would make a great body for Squeezeplay/Cancer/Crashbash.
Posted by Flashwave on December 16th, 2017 @ 12:08am CST
wolverinetodd wrote:You gotta love the spell-checkers over at Amazon... "the mighty Autobus or the destructive Deceptions."
Cringingly shudders.
Autocorrect can be a real mother forklift.
Posted by bodrock on December 16th, 2017 @ 12:22am CST
Posted by Deathsanras on December 16th, 2017 @ 12:43am CST
Pick one.
Posted by Emerje on December 16th, 2017 @ 1:14am CST
Skritz wrote:Edit: You know what? With some way to attach a Titan Master port and some new beast head piece, Rippersnapper would make a great body for Squeezeplay/Cancer/Crashbash.
Repugnus?
Though to be honest, of all the guys to become Headmasters he's got the head for it.
I'm still holding out for this remold of Ripersnapper:
Quick observation:
I'm really unhappy with the copyright info being on his largest plate since we see both sides. Even if they're assembled wrong (swapped left and right) you'll still clearly see it on the inside. And I don't think it is on wrong because the hinge for folding them down is on the correct side (outside). Should have stuck it inside a leg like most figures.
Emerje
Posted by Randomhero on December 16th, 2017 @ 5:52am CST
Emerje wrote:Skritz wrote:Edit: You know what? With some way to attach a Titan Master port and some new beast head piece, Rippersnapper would make a great body for Squeezeplay/Cancer/Crashbash.
Repugnus?
Though to be honest, of all the guys to become Headmasters he's got the head for it.
I'm still holding out for this remold of Ripersnapper:
Quick observation:
I'm really unhappy with the copyright info being on his largest plate since we see both sides. Even if they're assembled wrong (swapped left and right) you'll still clearly see it on the inside. And I don't think it is on wrong because the hinge for folding them down is on the correct side (outside). Should have stuck it inside a leg like most figures.
Emerje
Honestly you know there’s always a meeting for that stuff and until you have him in your hand it’s best to just trust that was the best and only place to put it. Maybe I’m giving them too much credit but like I said there’s meeting that are had to figure out where to put the copyright and trademark.
Yes there does seem to be plenty of space on the inside of the leg but I don’t work for Hasbro and I’m not part of those conversations
Plus let’s not kid ourselves, Snarls best side has always been his right
Posted by firefox91 on December 16th, 2017 @ 7:55am CST
Posted by Kurona on December 16th, 2017 @ 9:23am CST
Posted by Skritz on December 16th, 2017 @ 9:35am CST
Posted by Flashwave on December 16th, 2017 @ 9:39am CST
Skritz wrote:I guess one could always headcanon that Rodimus Unicronus is sporting a Decepticon logo because, like many previous Unicronian agents and servants he's just manipulating them.
I mean, "Good" Cliffjumper joined the "good"cons. Why not have evil Roddy join the bad guys?
Posted by partholon on December 16th, 2017 @ 10:19am CST
Posted by bodrock on December 16th, 2017 @ 11:08am CST
Kurona wrote:What happened to Catilla?
LOL
There should be some Pretender Vehicles & Beasts representing in PotP! And again, MOAR BEAST WARS
Posted by Asepticon on December 16th, 2017 @ 11:27am CST
Posted by DeathReviews on December 16th, 2017 @ 12:49pm CST
And the foil stickers just look sloppy with all that bulging and rippling.
Posted by william-james88 on December 16th, 2017 @ 1:38pm CST
Agamemnon wrote:Yogurt? I hate yogurt! Even with strawberries!
I gotta say...if I had more self control, I'd skip the Voyagers so far. I'm liking nearly everything else I have seen so far. But, Will is doing a nice job of convincing me to not invest in Grimmy and Screamer...
If you need some more convincing, here is a shot at Grimlock's scale in dino mode
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 16th, 2017 @ 2:18pm CST
Posted by King Kuuga on December 16th, 2017 @ 2:27pm CST
firefox91 wrote:And priced $5.00 above retail. TRU execs probably wonder why they continue to struggle.
So far TRU is selling all the POTP figures right at MSRP. They're struggling because of some back debt they inherited when they were bought out and the dwindling market for toys at retail, not just because of their prices.
Posted by bodrock on December 16th, 2017 @ 3:08pm CST
Posted by Lore Keeper on December 16th, 2017 @ 3:30pm CST
bodrock wrote:Has anyone received their HTS Prime Master orders yet? I'm just wondering how long it usually takes them to deliver....
I got mine yesterday, but I live pretty close to their warehouse, so I usually get my package the day after it ships.
Posted by Lore Keeper on December 16th, 2017 @ 3:33pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 16th, 2017 @ 5:09pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:that rodimus prime vehicle mode reminds me of something
Old meme, like 1986 old, still valid and never gets old.
Kurona wrote:What happened to Catilla?
This one?
Prime Masters:
Wave 2
Landmine- E1116, 63050964886
Catilla- E1115, 63050964887
Misnamed Alchemist Prime with Submarauder. It's also possible it was an attempt to release Toraizer in his stead early on, but the name stuck for some reason.
Posted by Madeus Prime on December 16th, 2017 @ 5:41pm CST
Posted by Brokebot on December 16th, 2017 @ 6:15pm CST
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"
That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.
Posted by Lore Keeper on December 16th, 2017 @ 6:40pm CST
Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"
That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.
It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 16th, 2017 @ 6:46pm CST
Lore Keeper wrote:Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"
That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.
It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.
We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:
- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking
The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.
Posted by Lore Keeper on December 16th, 2017 @ 7:12pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"
That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.
It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.
We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:
- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking
The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.
I'm honestly surprised Takara hasn't taken a crack at Liokaiser yet. I can easily see them creating a Leozack and Jallguar to replace evil Sky Lynx. I would buy that in a heartbeat and never again look upon my Hasbro version.
Posted by Brokebot on December 16th, 2017 @ 7:18pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Brokebot wrote:A brilliant point.
A well reasoned response
We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:
- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking
The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.
I have some Seacons and Monstercons that need updating, dang it.
Also, if given the choice between buying a half-complete combiner or not buying them at all, I'm going the cheap route and saving my cash for something else. Starscream seems . . . halfhearted at best, and Elita 1 is a recolored copy. Inferno is just a red Hot Spot. Hasbro wants us to buy these but won't provide enough limbots to to complete them? Sorry, but no.
Shelf Warmer #1, Shelf Warmer #2, and Shelf Warmer #3.
Posted by Lore Keeper on December 16th, 2017 @ 7:31pm CST
Brokebot wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Brokebot wrote:A brilliant point.
A well reasoned response
We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:
- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking
The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.
I have some Seacons and Monstercons that need updating, dang it.
Also, if given the choice between buying a half-complete combiner or not buying them at all, I'm going the cheap route and saving my cash for something else. Starscream seems . . . halfhearted at best, and Elita 1 is a recolored copy. Inferno is just a red Hot Spot. Hasbro wants us to buy these but won't provide enough limbots to to complete them? Sorry, but no.
Shelf Warmer #1, Shelf Warmer #2, and Shelf Warmer #3.
Honestly, Starscream's torso mode is the best thing about him. His jet mode doesn't hold together well, and his robot mode is very bland. His torso mode, however is very solid and utilizes a very interesting transformation. If I had to pick one voyager out of these oddballs to keep in combiner mode, it'd be him.
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 16th, 2017 @ 7:33pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Albatross250 wrote:They better re-release Combiner Wars sets again.
Bruticus is by far the best CW ever built (Except you, Jet-Molded Blast Off)
For CW, sure I guess we could say Bruticus was the best. But Unite Warriors Computron and Grand Galvatron are still better
what about devestator?
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 16th, 2017 @ 7:37pm CST
Lore Keeper wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"
That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.
It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.
We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:
- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking
The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.
I'm honestly surprised Takara hasn't taken a crack at Liokaiser yet. I can easily see them creating a Leozack and Jallguar to replace evil Sky Lynx. I would buy that in a heartbeat and never again look upon my Hasbro version.
then check this out! http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/c ... r.1104026/