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Posted by Blackstreak on February 24th, 2014 @ 12:53pm CST
Posted by Razieon on February 24th, 2014 @ 2:27pm CST
Takara/Tomy does a way better job on their paint applications than Hasbro.
Definitely, but they also cost a butt load more, which is unfortunate.
Posted by Seibertron on February 24th, 2014 @ 2:31pm CST
Posted by Banjo-Tron on February 24th, 2014 @ 2:39pm CST
Posted by dragons on February 24th, 2014 @ 2:42pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 4:33pm CST
Hasbro Starscream also looks better since his deco matches the design that his toy was based on, whereas Takara's goes the uncreative route of just recycling the old slavish G1 deco.dragons wrote:Hasbro megatron looks better mainly for for origin look evey other bot takra has the win I don't buy legends don't bother much
Posted by Optimizzy on February 25th, 2014 @ 8:48am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 25th, 2014 @ 10:25am CST
I guess, in this case, it would mostly depend on what sort of things you feel are must haves. We all have our differing views about "must haves", so what sort of things do you see as a must have?Optimizzy wrote:Honestly, I've never seen something made exclusive to Takara/Tomy that I just had to have. Same goes for these. The paint looks nice but really, but not for me. Which is what is usually the case. I've rarely seen anything exclusive to Japan that I thought I just HAD to have. I'm just not on the Takara/Tomy is better than Hasbro boat. While I see the paint apps are better, they are also not toys really. If the stickers come off and the paint chips for the prices they charge I don't want them. Of course, theses are geared towards the collectors market I'm guessing so that is a lot of it.
Posted by SentinelA on February 26th, 2014 @ 11:19am CST
Posted by LordTwann on March 7th, 2014 @ 10:09am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on March 7th, 2014 @ 10:13am CST
If they ever do release Skids, that is. Thus far, the Japanese Generations lineup has gone from Sandstorm to Waspinator to Rhinox to the Mini-Con Assault Team to Armada Starscream, skipping over a bunch of figures Hasbro released and this isn't the first time this has happened (Takara skipped the FOC Wreckers, for instance).LordTwann wrote:I've never picked up any if the takara variants since they're so much more expensive. But I'm trying to patiently wait for their variant on Skids. I think with what he's going for on eBay the Takara version will end up being cheaper and there's been no word on if there will be more of that wave coming.
Posted by LordTwann on March 8th, 2014 @ 7:30pm CST
Posted by Autobot032 on March 23rd, 2014 @ 10:47pm CDT
As always, we provide comparison pictures between the various US/Japanese versions, so you can see which one is right for you. The pictures below are your gateway to the full galleries, you can click on any under each heading to be taken to that figure's gallery.
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Posted by NassaDane on March 24th, 2014 @ 12:21am CDT
Posted by shajaki on March 24th, 2014 @ 10:22am CDT
however i wasnt aware how nice takaras voyager versions were. im just not a fan of the voyager mold, its just to big. and i really do give them props for attempting on the data discs, but ultimately they were a fail.
Posted by Va'al on March 27th, 2014 @ 11:58am CDT
Transformers Generations Fireblast Grimlock
Transformers Generations Thundercracker
Posted by Sabrblade on March 27th, 2014 @ 12:43pm CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on March 27th, 2014 @ 1:12pm CDT
Posted by T-Macksimus on March 27th, 2014 @ 1:22pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on March 27th, 2014 @ 2:00pm CDT
T-Macksimus wrote:I just can't help but walk away from a gallery of a Takara Transformer thinking "Hasbro, you cheap bastards!" Happens almost every single time. That Thundercracker looks amazing. I would love to get an entire Seeker set from Takara but I just can't stand what they did to Skywarp. 'Scream and T-Cracker look amazing but I'm not thrilled with 'Warp so the set would just bug me. While I may covet this version of Thundercracker, it isn't so far removed from the version I have that I can't live with mine but I do have to applaud this one. It's amazing.
While Takara Tomy has done some nice variations with Transformers than the Hasbro counterparts, I find myself preferring the Hasbro versions usually ... probably mostly because of cost. I own most Takara Transformers products that have been released since 2006. I find that the quality control problems that people experience with Hasbro's Transformers products happen just as often, if not more due to extra paint apps, with Takara products. There are a few exceptions from time-to-time on both sides of the fence, but when cost is taken into consideration, Hasbro usually wins hands down with me.
Posted by Mkall on March 27th, 2014 @ 2:20pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 27th, 2014 @ 3:46pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on March 27th, 2014 @ 6:17pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:After avoiding purchasing Takara-Tomy releases for years, for many of the same reasons others have said (too costly to justify the small differences), I've been slowly amassing quite a collection of modern Transformers product from Japan now. I first made an exception earlier this year, after putting up with Classics Megatron since 2007, by getting United Voyager Megatron for my Classics display. I rationalized that the difference in deco was significant enough and it was important to me to finally have a gun altmode G1 Megatron with the correct colors for my Classics display. Then...I decided to order the Seeker Aces and Elites sets. They are fantastic, very screen accurate, and give my Classics seekers some nice internal consistency with their paint layouts. Now, I've got both Autobot Specialists and the Decepticon Specialists three-packs on preorder. I also picked up a United Scourge to make him more distinguished from his Sweeps clones on my shelf (who will remain the Hasbro versions, of course). I've got a whole wishlist now of Takara-Tomy takes on characters I already have from Hasbro just for the sake of better G1/show accuracy. For the longest time, I convinced myself it was alright that some of my figures were more "toy accurate" than screen accurate, or simply homaged their G1 looks, in keeping with the "Classics" mission statement of modern updates instead of slavish G1 recreations, but now, I can't help but go for the screen accuracy that Takara-Tomy usually gives us. I will agree that paint chipping can be a problem with some figures. My solution so far as been to invest in "Sharpie" permant ink-paint pens to fill in some blemishes on figures. I had to touch up Skywarp and Thundercracker's silver paint from the Seekers Aces set, and those pens work like a charm! You may have to search a little to get the best paint matches for a particular figure, but your investment for a set of pens with a wide variety of colors will still be less expensive than many of the more demanded Takara-Tomy figures.
i was the same way, except it wasnt a monetary thing for me. i just wasnt as "in" to the hobby that i am now. the only figures i HAD to have the imports of were the masterpieces. but when i got deeper into collecting and researched the differences between hasbro and takara releases, there was no question. i had to have the superior decos. and since i can afford it, why wouldnt i? so over the last year and a half i went from owning about half the classics/generations line, to being two (or so) figures shy of having a complete henkei-united-TG collection exclusives and all. and buying henkei after the fact, was killer on the wallet. but at the end of the day im really happy with my collection.
Posted by shajaki on March 27th, 2014 @ 6:23pm CDT
my interest on grim was piqued when i first saw him so ill probably get him. thundercracker looks reaallly nice. he even makes me want to get takaras awful skywarp to complete the trio.... ill probably end up with all six in the end.
Posted by Midnight_Fox on March 27th, 2014 @ 6:50pm CDT
It's a good thing.
Posted by shajaki on March 27th, 2014 @ 7:09pm CDT
Midnight_Fox wrote:Totally offtopic, but Shajaki, every time I see your username, I have to sing "I feel for you" in my head.
It's a good thing.
iiiii.... uhhhh.... ok!
*youtubes*
*confused look*
ok!
Posted by Midnight_Fox on March 27th, 2014 @ 7:43pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Midnight_Fox wrote:Totally offtopic, but Shajaki, every time I see your username, I have to sing "I feel for you" in my head.
It's a good thing.
iiiii.... uhhhh.... ok!
*youtubes*
*confused look*
ok!
My brain starts saying your name and it gradually turns into Shaka Khan.
It's a strange and wonderful place in my head.
Posted by shajaki on March 27th, 2014 @ 9:12pm CDT
Midnight_Fox wrote:shajaki wrote:Midnight_Fox wrote:Totally offtopic, but Shajaki, every time I see your username, I have to sing "I feel for you" in my head.
It's a good thing.
iiiii.... uhhhh.... ok!
*youtubes*
*confused look*
ok!
My brain starts saying your name and it gradually turns into Shaka Khan.
It's a strange and wonderful place in my head.
i know the screen name is odd... i made it in high school and it just stuck. its an amalgamation of my name. shawn jason king. please dont use this info to steal my identity. i watch dateline.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 27th, 2014 @ 10:56pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 27th, 2014 @ 11:20pm CDT
Posted by Autobot032 on March 28th, 2014 @ 1:54am CDT
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Transformers Generations Armada Starscream
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Posted by toyskingstudio on March 28th, 2014 @ 3:35am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 28th, 2014 @ 7:35am CDT
Posted by shajaki on March 28th, 2014 @ 8:23am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 28th, 2014 @ 8:25am CDT
Not to mention a few more paint apps (check out the robot mode shoulder parts of the wings for instance).shajaki wrote:micron legend starscream looks pretty sweet... strange that a simple switch like grey to white can do.
Posted by Seibertron on March 28th, 2014 @ 9:42am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention a few more paint apps (check out the robot mode shoulder parts of the wings for instance).shajaki wrote:micron legend starscream looks pretty sweet... strange that a simple switch like grey to white can do.
While I think the Takara Tomy version looks better, this is another instance of where looks can be deceiving. With all of the extra paint apps come extra paint flaws that aren't evident on the Hasbro version.
Just about everywhere there is a paint app on this figure there are paint flaws and chips, which seems to be fairly typical of any figure lately that has paint apps. This was also the best of the 5 I was able to choose from. The others all had other varying degrees of paint flaws. I chose the one with the less flaws to its head and face.
Takara's products with all of their extra paint apps seem fine and dandy at first and in official product images, and even in my galleries, but seeing all of the flaws up close is frustrating. I think 20 years from now, the Hasbro versions will be more desired for those who open their items to display them because they will have stood the test of time better.
Posted by shajaki on March 28th, 2014 @ 10:16am CDT
Posted by Seibertron on March 28th, 2014 @ 10:39am CDT
shajaki wrote:that is unfortunate to see, and ive experienced it myself as well. most notably from my foc starscream and united wfc prime. but ill guess anyone overseas who buys import toys are collectors, and will look after them accordingly. but yeah... in the hands of a child? good luck hasbro wins hands down.
Going forward with my Takara galleries I'll start documenting more of these flaws. Binaltechs are what really soured me on the Takara products. They were hyped as being the superior figures to the Alternators yet the Alternators with all of their plastic goodness and fewer paint apps are holding up better.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 28th, 2014 @ 10:52am CDT
Seibertron wrote:shajaki wrote:that is unfortunate to see, and ive experienced it myself as well. most notably from my foc starscream and united wfc prime. but ill guess anyone overseas who buys import toys are collectors, and will look after them accordingly. but yeah... in the hands of a child? good luck hasbro wins hands down.
Going forward with my Takara galleries I'll start documenting more of these flaws. Binaltechs are what really soured me on the Takara products. They were hyped as being the superior figures to the Alternators yet the Alternators with all of their plastic goodness and fewer paint apps are holding up better.
I understand why you're wanting to do that, but is it really necessary though? Documenting every single flaw on every figure wouldn't give off a good impression, and aren't paint flaws a known "risk of the trade" so to speak?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 28th, 2014 @ 11:09am CDT
Posted by Seibertron on March 28th, 2014 @ 11:14am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Seibertron wrote:shajaki wrote:that is unfortunate to see, and ive experienced it myself as well. most notably from my foc starscream and united wfc prime. but ill guess anyone overseas who buys import toys are collectors, and will look after them accordingly. but yeah... in the hands of a child? good luck hasbro wins hands down.
Going forward with my Takara galleries I'll start documenting more of these flaws. Binaltechs are what really soured me on the Takara products. They were hyped as being the superior figures to the Alternators yet the Alternators with all of their plastic goodness and fewer paint apps are holding up better.
I understand why you're wanting to do that, but is it really necessary though? Documenting every single flaw on every figure wouldn't give off a good impression, and aren't paint flaws a known "risk of the trade" so to speak?
Didn't say I'd document every single flaw on every single figure. Just said I'd start documenting via photos more of these flaws. Takes just a minute more a gallery to knock out a few extra pics like I did for Armada Starscream. Not necessary at all, but nor are a lot of the shots that I take.
Posted by GuyIncognito on March 28th, 2014 @ 11:56am CDT
Posted by Flashwave on March 28th, 2014 @ 1:26pm CDT
For me, I think inherent, across-the-release issues, sure, let's lump together at the end of the gallery. Things like asembly erros, I'd love to know that. and if we're getting reports of consistent (and usually those come in after the galleries come out because Seibs' is on top of things like that) errors, the TFCC paint issues come to mind, bu how likely is it that my Starscream's paint (If I had one) is already faking around the wrist like yours?
Posted by Seibertron on March 28th, 2014 @ 9:34pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:The question I have, aren't flaws going to be different from figure to figure? I think what we're getting at in this thread is either that QC in TakTom's paint is going down, not adhering as well, or the figures themselves are not being handled as delicately as they should be in house?
For me, I think inherent, across-the-release issues, sure, let's lump together at the end of the gallery. Things like asembly erros, I'd love to know that. and if we're getting reports of consistent (and usually those come in after the galleries come out because Seibs' is on top of things like that) errors, the TFCC paint issues come to mind, bu how likely is it that my Starscream's paint (If I had one) is already faking around the wrist like yours?
I just want to shed some light on the fact that Takara products have just as many, if not more, QC problems than Hasbro's products have. Many fans still maintain the false belief that Takara's products are superior to Hasbro's. I just want to provide some visual evidence that this is not usually the case. All of those extra paint apps come at the price of additional QC problems which is frustrating when paying import costs on these items (i.e. a $12 deluxe toy now costs $30 to $40). That's all I want to do is just shed some light on that.
One other issue with Takara's Armada Starscream (at least on mine) ... his head was misassembled. I had to unscrew the head to pop the back part of his head onto the ball joint properly and then screw the head back together. If you look at the first half of his robot mode pics, you'll notice that he's kind of looking at an upward angle because the head is not attached to the ball joint properly.
Posted by Blurrz on March 29th, 2014 @ 1:45am CDT
Posted by Flux Convoy on March 29th, 2014 @ 2:44pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on April 1st, 2014 @ 7:41pm CDT
Transformers Generations Grimlock
Transformers Generations Starscream
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 1st, 2014 @ 7:57pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 1st, 2014 @ 8:41pm CDT
Not to mention game-accurate.Wolfman Jake wrote:I covet that Takara-Tomy Grimlock with his G1-accurate red abs and pelvis.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 1st, 2014 @ 9:22pm CDT