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Posted 17 hours agoPosted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2014 @ 3:24pm CST
When you are done checking out these guys, you can also check out our galleries of the Robots in Disguise 2015 Legion class toys and Robots in Disguise 2015 3-step toys.
Click on any of the below images to see the full galleries and stay tuned right here at Seibertron.com for more Robots in Disguise 2015 galleries as well as many more Transformers galleries to come.
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) BumblebeeWarrior Class
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Grimlock Warrior Class
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Strongarm Warrior Class
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Steeljaw Warrior Class
Posted by Seibertron on December 18th, 2014 @ 4:26pm CST
Posted by Noideaforaname on December 18th, 2014 @ 6:36pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 18th, 2014 @ 8:47pm CST
Posted by shajaki on December 18th, 2014 @ 10:42pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:I'm gonna wait and see what Takara does with these in their Transformers Adventure line since these toys need a serious amount of more paint to be show-accurate.
Posted by jogunwarrior on December 19th, 2014 @ 8:08am CST
Steel Jaw is also looking really good. I think I will pick him up for sure.
Posted by PrymeStriker on December 19th, 2014 @ 8:25am CST
Gonna need an upgrade kit for that.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 19th, 2014 @ 9:43am CST
I don't it's that far off. The toy just has a more pronounced snout than the CG model has. Let's see if Takara's Adventure version can bring out the cartoon face better without all that silver on Hasbro's RID version.PrymeStriker wrote:Wow. I didn't realize how inaccurate Steeljaw's headsculpt was until I looked at the figure in-package. Not that I was all that excited about him, but it's clear that we've got another Skylynx/Darksteel on our hands.
Gonna need an upgrade kit for that.
After all, the head on the packaging art isn't quite the same as the cartoon one either:
Posted by Towline on December 21st, 2014 @ 2:47pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 21st, 2014 @ 3:03pm CST
We are a spoiled fandom.Towline wrote:Why are we demanding that the toys need more paint? They are painted enough as it is.
Posted by Towline on December 21st, 2014 @ 3:15pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:We are a spoiled fandom.Towline wrote:Why are we demanding that the toys need more paint? They are painted enough as it is.
I guess Sabrblade. But as someone who had begged their parents for painted transformers in the 1980's I always get them chipped. Where as the colored plastic of the post 1980's transformers look prettier longer.
Posted by Seibertron on December 21st, 2014 @ 3:21pm CST
Towline wrote:Sabrblade wrote:We are a spoiled fandom.Towline wrote:Why are we demanding that the toys need more paint? They are painted enough as it is.
I guess Sabrblade. But as someone who had begged their parents for painted transformers in the 1980's I always get them chipped. Where as the colored plastic of the post 1980's transformers look prettier longer.
I think I agree with Towline. There are certain things that should absolutely be painted (like most of the Transformers faces or face shields), but I don't like the current usage of paints to make large areas of plastic look the "same" color by painting it instead of doing the plastic as that color. I also am frustrated with how many paint applications have flaws. Case in point: I just got my first shipment of Combiner Wars Legends figures. All 5 Thundercrackers had various paint flaws. It's frustrating to say the least!
Posted by Autobot032 on December 21st, 2014 @ 6:50pm CST
This wave consists of the newest Decepticon grunt, Underbite, plus new Autobot recruit Sideswipe, and of course Bumblebee and his compatriot Strongarm. Strongarm and Bumblebee both have Warrior (Deluxe) Class figures available at retail right now, and we have galleries of those two, which you can see here: Strongarm and Bumblebee. To see our newest galleries, just click on one of the images below to be taken to that figure's gallery:
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Underbite
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Sideswipe
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Strongarm
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Bumblebee
Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Posted by Sabrblade on December 21st, 2014 @ 6:58pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 21st, 2014 @ 7:09pm CST
If Seibertron has the time, I would love his thoughts on which he recommends in these. Underbite looks really fun and so far this is the only class in which he appears, so I am definitely tempted.
Posted by Prowlerglide on December 21st, 2014 @ 10:04pm CST
I currently own 3 one-steppers. AoE Grimlock I bought on a lark because I wanted to see how these things work. Rollbar I got because I drive a Sonic and he is a Sonic. Then I got AoE Prowl because I just love Prowl.william-james88 wrote:Ever since I bought one step heicopter drift, I have looked less down upon these 1 steps. They may be for a younger audience but that doesnt make their engineering any less impressive than other classes. It's just a bit harder to appreciate.
If Seibertron has the time, I would love his thoughts on which he recommends in these. Underbite looks really fun and so far this is the only class in which he appears, so I am definitely tempted.
The 2 cars aren't super impressive from an engineering standpoint, since you just fold the legs from the front to the back and let the roof flap fall down. FYI - that's what Sidewipe is in the RID line. I can tell from the pictures.
The Grimlock, though, is just a tiny little engineering marvel. I often grab him and slowly watch all the little parts move into place for the transformation. It's really cool.
I looked at the one-stepper for RID Bee and I am kinda thinking about limiting myself to just the OSCs for RID, but with Combiner Wars coming, I just can't throw all my money at toys, so I am unsure.
Posted by Seibertron on December 21st, 2014 @ 11:05pm CST
william-james88 wrote:If Seibertron has the time, I would love his thoughts on which he recommends in these. Underbite looks really fun and so far this is the only class in which he appears, so I am definitely tempted.
Strong arm was my least favorite. I really wanted to like under bite but his transformation of squeezing his rear legs together works very poorly and is difficult to stay transformed. Sideswipe uses same flip transformation as AOE drift but I'm kind of over that because it was so inventive the first time around. Which leaves me with bumblebee. He's a good toy for a 1 step but tell me that his robot mode doesn't scream a Rodimus repaint!
Posted by william-james88 on December 21st, 2014 @ 11:06pm CST
Seibertron wrote:william-james88 wrote:If Seibertron has the time, I would love his thoughts on which he recommends in these. Underbite looks really fun and so far this is the only class in which he appears, so I am definitely tempted.
Strong arm was my least favorite. I really wanted to like under bite but his transformation of squeezing his rear legs together works very poorly and is difficult to stay transformed. Sideswipe uses same flip transformation as AOE drift but I'm kind of over that because it was so inventive the first time around. Which leaves me with bumblebee. He's a good toy for a 1 step but tell me that his robot mode doesn't scream a Rodimus repaint!
Thanks Seibertron. And check out your one step helicopter drift when you have a chance. He seems to be better than all of those from the way you describe them.
Posted by Seibertron on December 21st, 2014 @ 11:08pm CST
Prowlerglide wrote:The 2 cars aren't super impressive from an engineering standpoint, since you just fold the legs from the front to the back and let the roof flap fall down. FYI - that's what Sidewipe is in the RID line. I can tell from the pictures.
The fun with the car mold from the Drift transformation is that you can transform them with a flick of the wrist. You can transform it by folding the legs back and letting the roof flap fall down but that's boring. Flick your wrist when you want to transform it and watch the magic happen before your eyes. That's how Hasbro demonstrated the Drift 1-Step at Toy Fair last year and it sold me. Simple and fun. It's a one handed transformation which is pretty awesome. I'd love to find a video of someone demonstrating this instead of using two hands to transform those molds.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 21st, 2014 @ 11:13pm CST
Ask and thou shalt receive.Seibertron wrote:I'd love to find a video of someone demonstrating this instead of using two hands to transform those molds.
One-handed car to robot conversion:
One-handed robot to car conversion:
Posted by Seibertron on December 21st, 2014 @ 11:26pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Ask and thou shalt receive.Seibertron wrote:I'd love to find a video of someone demonstrating this instead of using two hands to transform those molds.
One-handed car to robot conversion:
One-handed robot to car conversion:
and that is the fun of that toy! Thanks Sabrblade!!!
Posted by Autobot032 on December 29th, 2014 @ 2:50pm CST
Robots In Disguise Tiny Titans
Wait... Tiny Titans? A new size class/line? You bet! New collectible figurines with collector cards, to boot!
That's not all, remember how this is the sequel to Prime and part of the "Aligned" continuity? (Also shared with War For Cybertron and Fall Of Cybertron) Remember how Cliffjumper died in Darkness Rising? Well, you'll see that these RID Tiny Titans include a Cliffjumper! What could that hold for the future? We'll have to wait and see!
Until then, check out the galleries on these little guys and then come back to the forum discussion of the show itself to see what effect this has on everything, and you can share your thoughts on all of it, right here.
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Optimus Prime
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Bisk
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Thunderhoof
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Hammerstrike
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Cliffjumper
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Prowl
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Sideswipe
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Underbite
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Grimlock
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Strongarm
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Bumblebee
Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Steeljaw
Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Posted by psj333 on December 29th, 2014 @ 3:16pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 29th, 2014 @ 3:17pm CST
As for the rest, Optimus, Bisk, Sideswipe, and Cliffjumper all seem gang-molded in red, while Strongarm, Steeljaw, Thunderhoof, and Hammerstrike all look gang-molded in blue.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on December 29th, 2014 @ 3:26pm CST
Posted by GuyIncognito on December 29th, 2014 @ 3:39pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on December 29th, 2014 @ 3:41pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions. Prowl's gray is likely due to his toy being gang-molded with Bumblebee, Underbite, and Grimlock, with the intention of probably having his body painted white like how Bee's got yellow paint, but it didn't happen for some reason.
As for the rest, Optimus, Bisk, Sideswipe, and Cliffjumper all seem gang-molded in red, while Strongarm, Steeljaw, Thunderhoof, and Hammerstrike all look gang-molded in blue.
Got you covered in the galleries already from when I noticed this while working on the galleries, Sabrblade!
Posted by Seibertron on December 29th, 2014 @ 3:43pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on December 29th, 2014 @ 3:49pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions.
What makes you so sure about that? Why would they draw them in the style of RID instead of just reuse existing artwork? Killing Cliffjumper was a stupid move in TFP. I'm sure it gets undone at some point or they just toss continuity out the window, which has already happened with this "Aligned" continuity.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on December 29th, 2014 @ 4:05pm CST
Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions.
What makes you so sure about that? Why would they draw them in the style of RID instead of just reuse existing artwork? Killing Cliffjumper was a stupid move in TFP. I'm sure it gets undone at some point or they just toss continuity out the window, which has already happened with this "Aligned" continuity.
Pretty sure they killed him just so the viewers would understand that the Decepticons were a threat, to the point where even the faceless lackeys were about to finish off Bumblebee and Arcee before Bulkhead showed up.
Then that AAAALLLLL went out the window too, to the point where Bumblebee and Arcee could mow through 50 Vehicons without effort and Starscream became a whiny coward.
They also might have just killed Cliffjumper because The Rock is an expensive actor. It's like he charges per-word he speaks unless it's a movie deal.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 29th, 2014 @ 4:18pm CST
Posted by kaijuguy19 on December 29th, 2014 @ 4:25pm CST
Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions.
What makes you so sure about that? Why would they draw them in the style of RID instead of just reuse existing artwork? Killing Cliffjumper was a stupid move in TFP. I'm sure it gets undone at some point or they just toss continuity out the window, which has already happened with this "Aligned" continuity.
For all we know Cliffjumper could be just someone Optimus runs into during his mission in the afterlife and perhaps team up with each other for a while. It's a possible idea so why don't we see if Cliff manages to appear on the show at all first?
Posted by sol magnus on December 29th, 2014 @ 4:38pm CST
I guess for me it doesn't matter from a toy/collecting perspective as all I purchase is Masterpiece figures, anymore. Over the years I've made kind of a mess of things collecting Prowls and Magnuses, so when there's a new one shown I at least look at them.
Posted by Shuttershock on December 29th, 2014 @ 5:46pm CST
sol magnus wrote:Not that anything is impossible with this stuff, but I feel like it is a bit much to design RiD versions of Prowl and Cliffjumper and there not be a point to it. Here's hoping there's a point to it.
I guess for me it doesn't matter from a toy/collecting perspective as all I purchase is Masterpiece figures, anymore. Over the years I've made kind of a mess of things collecting Prowls and Magnuses, so when there's a new one shown I at least look at them.
As much as I doubt it, I do wish in my heart of hearts that Prowl could make an appearance. I've always liked his look in spite of his tendency towards prickishness in recent media. Maybe as Strongarm's senior officer/instructor who she looks up to more than Bee?
Posted by Rated X on December 29th, 2014 @ 5:54pm CST
Posted by Optimum Supreme on December 29th, 2014 @ 7:29pm CST
Aligned doesn't really mean anything, no matter what Hasbro may have claimed (or how TFwiki might try to categorize the characters). It's as pointless to try and reconcile stuff like Prime with WFC as it is to try and reconcile G1 with (the original) RID or any other two disparate universes. Hell, it's hard enough to try and get the three UT series to fit, but aligned, nope, no way. Just some marketing gobbledygook that somehow got outta hand.
Heh, I've got a Prowl eraser somewhere (I think I got it Christmas 84... holy shit 30 years ago...) that's larger and more detailed than these.
And if they had to mold Prowl out of gray plastic, probably should have made him Bluestreak.
Posted by Seibertron on December 29th, 2014 @ 9:42pm CST
Optimum Supreme wrote:I doubt this Cliffy means anything to Prime CJ and his death. I'm with whoever has said it's just a G1 Cliffy thrown into this line because why not, rather than that he's gonna actually be in the new RID (assuming RID actually is a real followup to Prime).
Aligned doesn't really mean anything, no matter what Hasbro may have claimed (or how TFwiki might try to categorize the characters). It's as pointless to try and reconcile stuff like Prime with WFC as it is to try and reconcile G1 with (the original) RID or any other two disparate universes. Hell, it's hard enough to try and get the three UT series to fit, but aligned, nope, no way. Just some marketing gobbledygook that somehow got outta hand.
I'm right there with you. I think it's silly that they even tried to tie what was obviously a G1 expansion story (or reinterpretation) with Transformers Prime. It has felt extremely forced since the moment they said something along the lines of "hey, chocolate chip cookies are great dipped in IPA Beer!" No thanks! I really wish they had worked with IDW to have the WFC/FOC games tie-in with the IDW comics instead. The aesthetics and personalities and history of the characters would have flowed much better if they had just ironed out the details instead of forcing Transformers Prime onto WFC/FOC.
Hell, they couldn't even really keep Rescue Bots as part of the main Transformers Prime continuity without really squinting your eyes after a few drinks and pretend a lot.
I called BS when they first announced that TFP, Rescue Bots and WFC were part of the same continuity. They can try all they want, but it just doesn't work at the end of the day. More so because of Hasbro ... storytelling and congruent continuity just isn't their specialty. Making toys and marketing is their specialty. Trying to keep all of these different facets of the Transformers brand congruent amongst changing employees and rapidly changing brand strategies a midst fierce competition is difficult. I commend them for trying, but wish they'd stick to what they do best.
On the flipside though, this reminds me of the various G1 micro-continuities that exist with the Find Your Own Adventure books, the kiddie-Marvel Books, the Marvel US Transformers comics, the Marvel UK Transformers comics, the G1 cartoon, and so on. At the end of the day, as much as we want to think Transformers is the greatest thing since sliced bread, any books, comics, cartoons, game, etc serve one sole purpose with Transformers and that is to sell more toys. Bottom line, end of story. Anything else that we get, as much as we try to believe it to be something greater, is just to fulfill that purpose. As soon as the toys die out, just like they did in the early 90s, the media facets and expanded universe type things that we get will die out as well.
On that note, I simply try to just enjoy whatever iterations that we have of the Transformers, regardless if it fits perfectly into any one overall continuity. I would rather have had WFC, Rescue Bots and Transformers Prime just been there own thing. If fans draw connections on their own, that's one thing, but to have Hasbro say "they're all part of the same continuity", that's where I'm calling BS because they didn't do that with G1, but we're fine with just taking it or leaving it with that stuff.
Posted by Shuttershock on December 29th, 2014 @ 9:45pm CST
Seibertron wrote:Optimum Supreme wrote:I doubt this Cliffy means anything to Prime CJ and his death. I'm with whoever has said it's just a G1 Cliffy thrown into this line because why not, rather than that he's gonna actually be in the new RID (assuming RID actually is a real followup to Prime).
Aligned doesn't really mean anything, no matter what Hasbro may have claimed (or how TFwiki might try to categorize the characters). It's as pointless to try and reconcile stuff like Prime with WFC as it is to try and reconcile G1 with (the original) RID or any other two disparate universes. Hell, it's hard enough to try and get the three UT series to fit, but aligned, nope, no way. Just some marketing gobbledygook that somehow got outta hand.
I'm right there with you. I think it's silly that they even tried to tie what was obviously a G1 expansion story (or reinterpretation) with Transformers Prime. It has felt extremely forced since the moment they said something along the lines of "hey, chocolate chip cookies are great dipped in IPA Beer!" No thanks! I really wish they had worked with IDW to have the WFC/FOC games tie-in with the IDW comics instead. The aesthetics and personalities and history of the characters would have flowed much better if they had just ironed out the details instead of forcing Transformers Prime onto WFC/FOC.
At this point, I think we can really take or leave the Aligned model. Aside from Cliff's horns and Bee's disappearing voice, there's very little to connect the games to Prime.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 29th, 2014 @ 9:52pm CST
Uh...Shuttershock wrote:At this point, I think we can really take or leave the Aligned model. Aside from Cliff's horns and Bee's disappearing voice, there's very little to connect the games to Prime.
Posted by Seibertron on December 29th, 2014 @ 9:54pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Uh...Shuttershock wrote:At this point, I think we can really take or leave the Aligned model. Aside from Cliff's horns and Bee's disappearing voice, there's very little to connect the games to Prime.
Like he said, there's very little to connect the games to Prime. That series seemed extremely forced. Now, had Arcee, Prime or any of the other characters appeared in that series alongside the Dinobots and had one of the Dinobots (namely Grimlock) had gone on to season 3 to battle Predaking, it'd be a different story and I'd be commending them for the effort. But without that, this just ranks slightly above fan-fiction in my book.
Posted by Shuttershock on December 29th, 2014 @ 9:57pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Uh...Shuttershock wrote:At this point, I think we can really take or leave the Aligned model. Aside from Cliff's horns and Bee's disappearing voice, there's very little to connect the games to Prime.
Show me the Dinobots IN a Prime episode and that has bearing with me.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:05pm CST
But hey, just goes to show how little Hasbro cares about visual consistency compared to how much the fans do.
At least they all got Cybertron's Core and the Nemesis looking them same across the board:
It's obvious that they wanted them to all be the same story, but the variety of looks have put off many to the very idea.
And yet, Beast Machines and G1 have staggeringly different aesthetics yet so many will argue to the grave that those two are connected.
From a storytelling perspective, it was a bad idea for Hasbro to first give us WFC and then Prime immediately after. Doing that was the equivalent of watching Beast Machines immediately after the first three episodes of G1.
If they could just publish that Binder of Revelation of theirs (cuz that Covenant of Primus book was hardly an acceptable substitute), fans could consider that the true canon of Aligned and discard all other games, books, cartoons, comics, etc. (WFC/FOC and Prime included in that mass discarding).
Posted by Shuttershock on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:16pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:It's Hasbro's fault for granting so much leeway and creative freedom to each individual branch instead of picking one design aesthetic and asking each branch to kindly stick to that.
But hey, just goes to show how little Hasbro cares about visual consistency compared to how much the fans do.
At least they all got Cybertron's Core and the Nemesis looking them same across the board:
It's obvious that they wanted them to all be the same story, but the variety of looks have put off many to the very idea.
And yet, Beast Machines and G1 have staggeringly different aesthetics yet so many will argue to the grave that those two are connected.
From a storytelling perspective, it was a bad idea for Hasbro to first give us WFC and then Prime immediately after. Doing that was the equivalent of watching Beast Machines immediately after the first three episodes of G1.
If they could just publish that Binder of Revelation of theirs (cuz that Covenant of Primus book was hardly an acceptable substitute), fans could consider that the true canon of Aligned and discard all other games, books, cartoons, comics, etc. (WFC/FOC and Prime included in that mass discarding).
The design incongruities are what amounts to a circle jerk in the Aligned world. WFC had a planet core, Prime copied that core design. Prime had the Nemesis and CJ's horns, FOC took those aspects.
It's just irritating that these stories, good and and bad in their own ways, would be shoehorned together by executive mandate. See also "Rise of the Dark Spark", which amounts to a cheap knock off Cybertron game being forcibly lashed to the movie universe in spite of drastically different art styles and directions.
Posted by Seibertron on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:21pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:And yet, Beast Machines and G1 have staggeringly different aesthetics yet so many will argue to the grave that those two are connected.
That's an interesting point ... one of which I'm sure there are many fans who equally despise the fact that Beast Machines is the swan song to G1. I could care less either way. At the time, it was really nice to see the Beast Wars era tie-in with G1. There had never been a precedent of multi-universes in the world of Transformers yet so it made sense at the time, hence the acceptance of many fans. But these days, with so many multi-universes of Transformers that if Hasbro says "this is all the same continuity", they had better dot their i's and cross their t's. Otherwise, it's just back to basics with fans connecting the dots.
Hasbro needs a story editor who oversees all of the different iterations of the Transformers and does their damnedest to make everything flow together that is supposed to.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:22pm CST
At leat that game has the benefit of keeping WFC/FOC and AOE as separate alternate universes rather than foolishly putting them together.Shuttershock wrote:See also "Rise of the Dark Spark", which amounts to a cheap knock off Cybertron game being forcibly lashed to the movie universe in spite of drastically different art styles and directions.
That game even had G1 as another separate world from the G1-inspired WFC/FOC, so even regardless of whether or not WFC/FOC was a part of Aligned, Rise of the Dark Spark hammers in the fact that WFC/FOC is a different reality from G1.
Posted by Shuttershock on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:25pm CST
Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And yet, Beast Machines and G1 have staggeringly different aesthetics yet so many will argue to the grave that those two are connected.
That's an interesting point ... one of which I'm sure there are many fans who equally despise the fact that Beast Machines is the swan song to G1. I could care less either way. At the time, it was really nice to see the Beast Wars era tie-in with G1. There had never been a precedent of multi-universes in the world of Transformers yet so it made sense at the time, hence the acceptance of many fans. But these days, with so many multi-universes of Transformers that if Hasbro says "this is all the same continuity", they had better dot their i's and cross their t's. Otherwise, it's just back to basics with fans connecting the dots.
Hasbro needs a story editor who oversees all of the different iterations of the Transformers and does their damnedest to make everything flow together that is supposed to.
Captain John Barberosa of the Good Ship Continuity, perhaps?
Posted by Seibertron on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:26pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:At leat that game has the benefit of keeping WFC/FOC and AOE as separate alternate universes rather than foolishly putting them together.Shuttershock wrote:See also "Rise of the Dark Spark", which amounts to a cheap knock off Cybertron game being forcibly lashed to the movie universe in spite of drastically different art styles and directions.
That game even had G1 as another separate world from the G1-inspired WFC/FOC, so even regardless of whether or not WFC/FOC was a part of Aligned, Rise of the Dark Spark hammers in the fact that WFC/FOC is a different reality from G1.
It seemed pretty obvious to me that FOC ended right where the G1 cartoon should have started. I thought for sure that in 2014 we'd have gotten a FOC sequel to commemorate the 30th anniversary complete with true-blue 30th anniversary toys ala Masters of the Universe Classics that would have been basically retail versions of Masterpiece figures but with modern looking vehicles. Apparently my pipe dream was wrong!
Posted by Sabrblade on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:30pm CST
I agree with this, but... sadly, Hasbro just doesn't care as much as we do. "Continuity" to Hasbro means what "Continuity Family" means to us.Seibertron wrote:Hasbro needs a story editor who oversees all of the different iterations of the Transformers and does their damnedest to make everything flow together that is supposed to.
However, let me ask you this. Would you have been more accepting to the idea of Prime and WFC being related if we started with WFC first, then got more media that continued onward from where WFC left off, with all of the fiction being released in chronological order, and then several years later, after a LARGE amount of the story had been told (the launch from Cybertron, the space-faring plant-hopping journey, the long-awaited arrival on Earth, the establishing of the Autobot's Earth base, etc.), we then got finally Prime, at which point we would have seen the evolution of aesthetics from G1-based to Movie/Animated-based occur over time (as we did with G1 --> Beast Wars --> Beast Machines)... instead of how we got the two as we did with us jumping from WFC straight into Prime?
Posted by Heckfire on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:40pm CST
Posted by Shuttershock on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:41pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:I agree with this, but... sadly, Hasbro just doesn't care as much as we do. "Continuity" to Hasbro means what "Continuity Family" means to us.Seibertron wrote:Hasbro needs a story editor who oversees all of the different iterations of the Transformers and does their damnedest to make everything flow together that is supposed to.
However, let me ask you this. Would you have been more accepting to the idea of Prime and WFC being related if we started with WFC first, then got more media that continued onward from where WFC left off, with all of the fiction being released in chronological order, and then several years later, after a LARGE amount of the story had been told, we got finally Prime, at which point we would have seen the evolution of aesthetics from G1-based to Movie/Animated-based occur over time (as we did with G1 --> Beast Wars --> Beast Machines)... instead of how we got them with us jumping from WFC straight into Prime?
If it means a proper evolution of characters over time and a seeing the stories of people we grow to love (and hate) go all the way to the end, then absolutely yes. But you'd almost have to stick to one medium to do that.
To me, the problem of aligned universes across multiple forms of media is that you might not get the whole story if you ONLY play games or ONLY watch the show or ONLY read the comics. And because of the different demographics and tones of each medium (not to mention development time), there will certainly be inconsistencies between the characters.