Legacy Wave 3 Deluxes and Voyagers Found in UK

Yeesh, why did the UK get so dang MANY Cosmos figures, and the US got next to none? And why doesn't Hasbro just own up to their mistake, make MORE Cosmos figures, and give them to the areas that got stiffed?

DeathReviews wrote:Yeesh, why did the UK get so dany MANY Cosmos figures, and the US got next to none? And why doesn't Hasbro just own up to their mistake, make MORE Cosmos figures, and give them to the areas that got stiffed?

For the same reasons that apply to every single toys ever produced. Crappy distributions and corporate shenanigans.

Still, some popular toys DO get reissued like Commander Jetfire and Skylinx. So we never know.

DeathReviews wrote:Yeesh, why did the UK get so dany MANY Cosmos figures, and the US got next to none? And why doesn't Hasbro just own up to their mistake, make MORE Cosmos figures, and give them to the areas that got stiffed?

Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is. The solid cases of Cosmos are evidently available to Walmart but they aren't buying them. For whatever reason, Europe is. Hasbro ships what people order.

King Kuuga wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Yeesh, why did the UK get so dany MANY Cosmos figures, and the US got next to none? And why doesn't Hasbro just own up to their mistake, make MORE Cosmos figures, and give them to the areas that got stiffed?

Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is. The solid cases of Cosmos are evidently available to Walmart but they aren't buying them. For whatever reason, Europe is. Hasbro ships what people order.

This^

Out of all the discounted Velocitron stuff Zavvi got for black friday they got zero Cosmos so he cant be that plentiful, even here. I've not seen any at Smyths in a looong while probbaly due to them all bought by people trying to fleece others on ebay.

Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is.

Well, they were WRONG - as usual. There are tons of Road Rockets, Blurrs and Burn Outs languishing on shelves, and no Cosmos at all! Bah, curses, boo hiss and FIE!

King Kuuga wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Yeesh, why did the UK get so dany MANY Cosmos figures, and the US got next to none? And why doesn't Hasbro just own up to their mistake, make MORE Cosmos figures, and give them to the areas that got stiffed?

Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is. The solid cases of Cosmos are evidently available to Walmart but they aren't buying them. For whatever reason, Europe is. Hasbro ships what people order.

The solid cases aren't available in the sense that they were made and Walmart didn't want them, but in the sense that if Walmart ordered them Hasbro would have made them. The Transformers team at Hasbro were surprised to find out the solid cases existed, they were only aware of the Walmart case mix, it's purely an international Hasbro thing.

Emerje

DeathReviews wrote:

Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is.

Well, they were WRONG - as usual. There are tons of Road Rockets, Blurrs and Burn Outs languishing on shelves, and no Cosmos at all! Bah, curses, boo hiss and FIE!

I mean yeah if I was the one in charge I would've at least swapped Cosmos with Burnout re: 2 vs 1. I'm not gonna deny it's a weird decision by WM, but a lot of these decisions are made by people who see trends without being personally invested in all the brands they have to order for.

Emerje wrote:

King Kuuga wrote:Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is. The solid cases of Cosmos are evidently available to Walmart but they aren't buying them. For whatever reason, Europe is. Hasbro ships what people order.

The solid cases aren't available in the sense that they were made and Walmart didn't want them, but in the sense that if Walmart ordered them Hasbro would have made them. The Transformers team at Hasbro were surprised to find out the solid cases existed, they were only aware of the Walmart case mix, it's purely an international Hasbro thing.

Emerje

Thanks for the additional insight!

william-james88 wrote:Tra Gen Legacy EV LDR Optimus
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Overcracker wrote:So two more Primes in 2024, in that case what other Prime are we expecting the Leader figure to be?

Energon?
Prime?
New G1?

Something else?

*Prays in *
https://youtu.be/dSNBMmZhN60

$29.99 at a Target in Knoxville, TN.

Good find!

I really like that sharp red on him, but honestly, going by previews, I think the original is still superior. The only thing this one has over that is the back folds down.

Oh hey that individual with the early copies of the RotB Airazors and Battletrap posted pics of Legacy Medix-wait, Legacy Medix?
...when they said that anything was on the table for Legacy I guess they weren't kidding. It's not quite the Crankcase retool I was hoping for (that would be Ironfist), but it looks good to me. Maybe Heatwave from Bulkhead next somehow please?
Source (w/ more pics): https://www.facebook.com/SonicBomberCore

Interesting, a possible exclusive for the likes of Velocitron?

Nice enough repaint but an easy pass unless it's a multi pack with something I'd actually want.

So Tigerhawk, I can kind of see the logic. He was the counterpart to Dragon Megs in the TM2 line. But why Silverbolt? Surely not just pandering to the BA/Silverbolt crowd??

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So Tigerhawk, I can kind of see the logic. He was the counterpart to Dragon Megs in the TM2 line. But why Silverbolt? Surely not just pandering to the BA/Silverbolt crowd??

To stop new fans having to track down the original.

ZeroWolf wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So Tigerhawk, I can kind of see the logic. He was the counterpart to Dragon Megs in the TM2 line. But why Silverbolt? Surely not just pandering to the BA/Silverbolt crowd??

To stop new fans having to track down the original.

I guess so.



I never owned him, but I heard he was one of the better Fuzor figures.

He was brilliant, and it will be interesting to see what they do with him other than quality of life improvements like ankle tilts etc

ZeroWolf wrote:He was brilliant, and it will be interesting to see what they do with him other than quality of life improvements like ankle tilts etc

I'll be more interested to see what they do with Mr All-White Tigerhawk.

Silverbolt was always too small - even without considering the show, he had a deluxe-sized body and a basic-sized head. His parts didn't fasten too securely, his missiles didn't blend with his wings, and his backpack was awful.

I do remember hearing that the plume/wolf back of the Beast Mode didn't fold down in Bot Mode. Most people puzzled why there wasn't a simple extra hinge?

I loathed the character in the show. But if these two are testing the waters for the Fuzor line to get an update in Legacy. I'm all for that!

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I do remember hearing that the plume/wolf back of the Beast Mode didn't fold down in Bot Mode. Most people puzzled why there wasn't a simple extra hinge?

To be fair, the backpack is pretty chonky, so it would probably require one of those folding double hinges, which would have add to the price and fragility. If they'd scaled him up to mega class it would have worked, but they were only doing transmetals for mega class at the times (same as the basic class was exclusively fuzors).

I loathed the character in the show. But if these two are testing the waters for the Fuzor line to get an update in Legacy. I'm all for that!

Silverbolt was one of my favorites as a kid because I empathized with him. Everyone treated him as kind of dumb because of his lawful good bent, but there were a lot of moments showing he wasn't ignorant or naive, but willfully optimistic(?), and that keeping that up was actually a fair bit of work on his part. That continued to evolve when he got to Beast Machines.

I wouldn't bet on any fuzors beyond Quickstrike though. The modern Beast Wars offerings have stuck close to the original show's cast. Might get Universe Silverbolt or that white repaint (Windrazor?) under Selects, or if Walmart follows the Velocitron line with a Beast-Planet line.

(I just realized that the Velocitron line would have been a great place to drop a Transmetal I or II Cheetor.)

Dr. Caelus wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I do remember hearing that the plume/wolf back of the Beast Mode didn't fold down in Bot Mode. Most people puzzled why there wasn't a simple extra hinge?

To be fair, the backpack is pretty chonky, so it would probably require one of those folding double hinges, which would have add to the price and fragility. If they'd scaled him up to mega class it would have worked, but they were only doing transmetals for mega class at the times (same as the basic class was exclusively fuzors).

I loathed the character in the show. But if these two are testing the waters for the Fuzor line to get an update in Legacy. I'm all for that!

Silverbolt was one of my favorites as a kid because I empathized with him. Everyone treated him as kind of dumb because of his lawful good bent, but there were a lot of moments showing he wasn't ignorant or naive, but willfully optimistic(?), and that keeping that up was actually a fair bit of work on his part. That continued to evolve when he got to Beast Machines.

I wouldn't bet on any fuzors beyond Quickstrike though. The modern Beast Wars offerings have stuck close to the original show's cast. Might get Universe Silverbolt or that white repaint (Windrazor?) under Selects, or if Walmart follows the Velocitron line with a Beast-Planet line.

(I just realized that the Velocitron line would have been a great place to drop a Transmetal I or II Cheetor.)

Yeah for the generations line, I'm not expecting more then the 2 show fuzors, same with transmetals. Toy only characters will only be those who can be redecoed from the show cast figures.

I got the voyager Inferno figure, and wow is he really good. I am loving him so far. The headsculpt is killer, especially with the posable mouth!

I need to get him into ant mode, but he is an absolute stunner so far.

Dr. Caelus wrote:

I loathed the character in the show. But if these two are testing the waters for the Fuzor line to get an update in Legacy. I'm all for that!

Silverbolt was one of my favorites as a kid because I empathized with him. Everyone treated him as kind of dumb because of his lawful good bent, but there were a lot of moments showing he wasn't ignorant or naive, but willfully optimistic(?), and that keeping that up was actually a fair bit of work on his part. That continued to evolve when he got to Beast Machines.

I wouldn't bet on any fuzors beyond Quickstrike though. The modern Beast Wars offerings have stuck close to the original show's cast. Might get Universe Silverbolt or that white repaint (Windrazor?) under Selects

As a fan of villains and comic relief based characters being a personal bugbear of mine. Silverbolt and Quickstrike really fell flat for me. The former basically is the antithesis of everything I like in characterisation. The latter, I regard as the worst character in the show (on par with Nightscream).

I can see the redeco potential in a new Silverbolt release. I don't think Quickstrike ever had a redeco? But as you say, being part of the cast he is more than likely for inclusion in the Legacy line. It's a shame though. I'd have loved to see modern iterations of Terragator and Airhammer.

Fun fact: Silverbolt's "knight in shining armor" persona is literally what inspired his personality shift in Beast Machines. In Beast Wars, he was basically the 1960s Adam West Batman, so for his return in Beast Machines, they wanted to surprise everyone with the unexpected twist of him returning as Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns" Batman, embittered by the harshness of war and the cruel atrocities he had committed as Jetstorm.

But why a Turkey?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:But why a Turkey?

Because the designers were hungry?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:But why a Turkey?

Ask Hasbro. They made the designs. Mainframe just had to adapt them for the screen.

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:But why a Turkey?

Ask Hasbro. They made the designs. Mainframe just had to adapt them for the screen.

The Samurai motif to the Bot Mode looks fine. But.. easily the worst altmode of the Beast Era shows.

If these modern Beast figures are successful enough. I wonder if BM would make it into Legacy? Clear plastic warnings aside, it might be the redemption the Maximal designs need.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:But why a Turkey?

Ask Hasbro. They made the designs. Mainframe just had to adapt them for the screen.

The Samurai motif to the Bot Mode looks fine. But.. easily the worst altmode of the Beast Era shows.

If these modern Beast figures are successful enough. I wonder if BM would make it into Legacy? Clear plastic warnings aside, it might be the redemption the Maximal designs need.

Luckily, outside of the penultimate episode's Spark power-up, the on-screen designs had very little about them that was translucent, so any new toys of them ought to be accurately opaque.

Sabrblade wrote:Luckily, outside of the penultimate episode's Spark power-up, the on-screen designs had very little about them that was translucent, so any new toys of them ought to be accurately opaque.

That is a good point. "Show accurate" might be a saving grace for the BM figures. Considering how insanely fragile most of the figures were. To this day, I look at my (broken) Vehicon Mirage and think 'who okay'd this waist ball joint being clear plastic???'

Proof that sometimes HasTak do learn a lesson or two.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Oh hey that individual with the early copies of the RotB Airazors and Battletrap posted pics of Legacy Medix-wait, Legacy Medix?

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...when they said that anything was on the table for Legacy I guess they weren't kidding. It's not quite the Crankcase retool I was hoping for (that would be Ironfist), but it looks good to me. Maybe Heatwave from Bulkhead next somehow please?
Source (w/ more pics): https://www.facebook.com/SonicBomberCore

I saw this on TFW yesterday, so many off the wall comments, and it felt like mine were just completely ignored...Oh well, anyway... It was interesting to see that some fans liked the idea, many others were like "Why RB in Generations? I never watched that preschool show..."

Oddly enough, while there were Medix toys in the RB toyline, the character himself never appeared on the show. I did watch all of RB because it was age appropriate for my kids at the time. I never watched RB Academy (outside of a couple of clips on Youtube). It appears a Medix character actually appeared on RBA (the nephew of Ratchet), but if its supposed to be the same character, who knows. The Legacy pics bear a striking resemblance to the Botcon 2016 customization class figure more than anything else:



I'm so glad I own this, as all of the variations of this Ratchet Custom build class toy; Medix is arguably the hardest to create/obtain especially pushing on 6+ years since the convention. At any rate, if Legacy is supposed to represent all TF Fiction, why not Rescue Bots as well?

ZeroWolf wrote:Interesting, a possible exclusive for the likes of Velocitron?

Possibly, or Selects, or Buzzworthy. Being a Medic, lots of fans, including myself, assumed it might be the Walgreens exclusive for 2023. I really hope not though. Usually those aren't revealed until a few months into the new year, and I'm really hoping 2022 Minerva is the last year of Walgreens exclusives seeing as they make it a real pain to obtain, and show little concern for exclusives since their toy rep left.

So, finally getting a new Sandstorm in 2024. Odd that he's a leader when they pulled off Springer as a Voyager and there's no obvious thing to add to either altmode like with Astrotrain, wonder if there's Coronation Starscream stuff going on. I suppose we'll have to see. Hopefully it's not overdesigned messiness like Blitzwing.
I think Octane would have made a better use of a Leader slot than Blitzwing; could have been used to give him both shields and possibly finagle an articulated trailer connection in truck mode.
But anyway, good to know Sandstorm's coming. Wonder when we'll get a proper Quickswitch.


Been enjoying Legacy SIEGEwave so far.

DeathReviews wrote:Yeesh, why did the UK get so dang MANY Cosmos figures, and the US got next to none? And why doesn't Hasbro just own up to their mistake, make MORE Cosmos figures, and give them to the areas that got stiffed?

Dude, I left mine on the shelf for you. Why didn't you get it?

We thank Nemesis Primal for letting us know that, Sonic Bomber, the individual with the early copies of the RotB Airazors and Battletrap posted pics of what appears to be Legacy medix. It is a redeco of Legacy Crankcase with the head of Velocitron Burnout with a deco based on the Botcon custom Class Medix figure which was in turn based on a toy in the Rescue Bots line called Medix. That particular Medix toy was never a character on the original Rescue Bots show but the show Rescue Bots Academy did have a bot called Medix which sported a different deco (more based on Ratchet, who is his uncle in the show).




















Transformers Rescue Bots Medix the Doc-Bot Gallery

Apparently, the first wave of voyagers from the Transformers Legacy Evolution line have been found in Hong King, but we await confirmation. We do have in hand images of them though (no boxes shown) that were posted on the HobbyMiser Facebook page. They show off Tarn's excellent articulation through a myriad of poses.

Enjoy!

These pictures made me realize that the new Leo Prime toy may be missing a piece of detail found only on the original toy mold and on the MP, but on no other preexisting Lio Convoy toy mold: His backside rocket boosters.

Sabrblade wrote:These pictures made me realize that the new Leo Prime toy may be missing a piece of detail found only on the original toy mold and on the MP, but on no other preexisting Lio Convoy toy mold: His backside rocket boosters.

If im not mistaken, he has "rocket boosters" or little nubs with blast effect compatibility. Either that or the guns can go back there. My memory isn't too great but I believe it was discussed in one of Mark Mahers instagram posts or something

It's nice to see more pics of Leo Prime using the claws

Tarn looking magnificent as ever

I was on the fence about Tarn, but these are good shots. He seems simple yet fun, much like Jhiaxus. I wonder if he'll be just as hollow. Regardless, I have him on preorder.

Medix

What?

I'm sorry, WHAT?

I REALLY hope this is real. I passed on the crankcase remold, it's not a super great color scheme, but bits so obscure and if it does well, maybe it will signal for more RB characters.

If it's not real, it's a pretty damn good custom job. But I think it's legit.

But why that mold?

THIS is exactly what Legacy should be. As it goes on, I hope to see more obscure-ish characters like this. Hoping we get some BWii/Neo rep, maybe a Leader Class Energon Optimus Prime

Many have said it but I would do anything for a CHUG Rescue Bot. Would love a WFC retool of Mirage into a Morbot.

It's weird that the medic figure has more guns than the figure it's made from that's literally called a Triggercon. I wonder if those guns are actually his? It would make more sense for him to come with the same blue axe as Skids and Burn Out like the original figure than orange versions of Elita 1's guns. I suppose their gang molded with Minerva's lightbar, but they could have just as easily used the ER Prowl lightbar that we've seen used on its own several times. I mean, I'll take extra weapons as long as it doesn't effect the price.

Rodimus Prime wrote:If it's not real, it's a pretty damn good custom job. But I think it's legit.

But why that mold?

Because it's the closest thing to the CW figure from BotCon.




Emerje

Tarn is defintely the best TF figure since years. Awesome.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:THIS is exactly what Legacy should be. As it goes on, I hope to see more obscure-ish characters like this. Hoping we get some BWii/Neo rep, maybe a Leader Class Energon Optimus Prime

Many have said it but I would do anything for a CHUG Rescue Bot. Would love a WFC retool of Mirage into a Morbot.

Just so long as the Prime Force drones are sold separately. Otherwise getting all of that in a leader class for Energon Optimus would be more than a little disappointing. It would be better selling them separately than it would be to sell the whole thing as a commander too so as to not waste the spot on something that could easily be sold separately. Not that everyone would enjoy that either.

I really hope Big Convoy,Stampy, Magmatron and Galvatron are being considered. Just a few of the ones I want most from BW II and Neo.

For Morbot though, I use Netflix Decepticon Mirage for that. It's far from perfect but I didn't really know what else to do with Decepticon Mirage and the colors reminded me of MOrbot a bit. A while back I repainted a PotP Jazz as Quickshadow based on her "Rescan" toy. I never even watched Rescue Bots either and I want Generations versions of them.

You make a good point about the Drones being sold separately. Could be a Deluxe class with 4 Core Limbs, sort of like the original plans for the upcoming Volcanicus.

That shot of Tarn on the coronation Starscream Throne is glorious