Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More

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We thank Nuclearxpotato for letting us know of Hasbro's official reveal of some figures on IGN.
https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-war-for-cybertron-kingdom-figures-announced-by-hasbro

Here is the info on each of these reveals, one per size class.

Core Class Beast Wars Ratttrap
Deluxe Class Beast Wars Cheetor
Voyager Class Generation 1 Cyclonus
Leader Class Beast Wars Megatron

There will be more reveals at the Transformers Saturday Toy Panel at Hasbro PulseCon. Also, pre-orders will be available on 09/26/2020 at 5:00pm ET on Hasbro Pulse.

“The WFC-K2 Core Class RATTRAP collectible figure stands at 3.5 inches tall and converts to Beast Wars-inspired rat mode with molded fur texture in 18 steps. RATTRAP comes with classic Fusion blaster accessory inspired by the one featured in the Beast Wars cartoon. Wise cracks not included, but you can imagine! The mini-figure allows fans to collect a mini version of the iconic character to pose out with other RATTRAP toys at larger scales (each sold separately, subject to availability)!

“The WFC-K4 Deluxe CHEETOR collectible figure stands at 5.5 inches tall, converts to Beast Wars-inspired cheetah mode in 20 steps with intricate cheetah-inspired molded fur texture, and features lower jaw articulation in cheetah mode for classic look of CHEETOR enthusiasm. CHEETOR’s tail also detaches from cheetah mode during conversion and becomes a tail whip accessory that can be held by the figure in robot mode. CHEETOR includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!”

“The WFC-K9 Voyager CYCLONUS G1-inspired figure stands at 7 inches tall, converts into Cybertronian fighter craft mode in 34 steps, and comes with the classic Oxidating Laser accessory. CYCLONUS, a herald of UNICRON, first appears in the 1986 movie when BOMBSHELL/SKYWARP were reformatted into the second-in-command of GALVATRON. CYCLONUS includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!

“The WFC-K10 Leader MEGATRON (BEAST) collectible figure stands at 7.5 inches tall and converts into Beast Wars-inspired T. rex beast mode in 27 steps, featuring intricate dinosaur-inspired molded scales and an articulated jaw with molded teeth. MEGATRON’s dino head and tail also become his classic claw hands, and fans can add laser fire effects by placing fire blasts accessories inside his dino head (sold separately with other figures, subject to availability). MEGATRON (BEAST) includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!”

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Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081184)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:17pm CDT

Autobot_Benz wrote:They gave him some stupid tail whip he never had.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081185)
Posted by Skritz on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:18pm CDT

It may be cliché but I came back to say
YEEEESSSS

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081187)
Posted by Notimus Crime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:20pm CDT

I'm most likely going to be skipping a lot of the beast characters (no it's not a Trukk not Munky thing I just don't have any particular attachment to Beast Wars), but hot dang that BW megs. Yeah I'll be getting him. I'm a sucker for dinosaurs. As for the rest of the Beast characters, I'll have to see how they turn out. I'm interested in Tigatron because I really like his deco, I'll think about Airazor if Tigatron turns out good, I'm interested in Primal to go against the BW megs I'll be getting, I'm always up for a Waspinator, you get the gist. From what we've seen already, I'll be skipping out on Cheetor and Rattrap.

Oh, and Cyclonus looks awesome. Hopefully the Galvatron we're getting will be quality as well.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081188)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:20pm CDT

So these golden disk cards, I'm guessing then that the card they come with isn't necessarily for them and each one has three different ones :-?

So a bit like they did with Power of the Primes then

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081189)
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:23pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:
Regarding Cyclonus, surely voyager height is right? He wasn't Sky Lynx or Jetfire sized

To me he should be Ultra Magnus sized (not the undersized Siege Ultra Magnus) as I have smaller ones as is with classics and the larger CW/UW but each to their own and it makes more sense to scale to galvatron/scourge.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081193)
Posted by WeatherManNX01 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:29pm CDT

Hot damn, Megatron looks fantastic. I never had the original BW toy, but this looks like a solid update of the figure.

I still await pictures of Optimus Primal. I have some reservations about him being Voyager rather than Leader, but I'd like to see how it comes out regardless.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081194)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:30pm CDT

Catching up on the good stuff.

Fossilizer looks really sweet, I love that aesthetic!

Beast Megatron is the bomb! That dino mode is incredible, and I love the dino head on it! That is a great toy right there!

Cheetor and Rattrap are looking good.

Cyclonus is very meh, not feeling his style.

I have Generations Warpath, no need for the new one.

Eager to see what else beast wise comes out of this!

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081197)
Posted by Bounti76 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:34pm CDT

CYCLONUS, a herald of UNICRON, first appears in the 1986 movie when BOMBSHELL/SKYWARP were reformatted into the second-in-command of GALVATRON.

So I guess this settles, once and for all, who Cyclonus really is. He's an amalgam of Skywarp AND Bombshell. Cool.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081198)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:37pm CDT

These all look great, especially Cyclonus and Beast Wars Megatron, but I want to take a moment to appreciate some of the cute little quips in the product copies. I love the "wise cracks not included, but you can imagine" line for Rattrap, but the "and features lower jaw articulation in cheetah mode for classic look of CHEETOR enthusiasm" for Cheetor takes the cake. Well played, Hasbro's marketing department! :lol:

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081199)
Posted by Notimus Crime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:40pm CDT

Bounti76 wrote:
CYCLONUS, a herald of UNICRON, first appears in the 1986 movie when BOMBSHELL/SKYWARP were reformatted into the second-in-command of GALVATRON.

So I guess this settles, once and for all, who Cyclonus really is. He's an amalgam of Skywarp AND Bombshell. Cool.

I do like that they know of the controversy there and didn't want to give a concrete answer, so they just go "everyone's right!". Cyclonus will always be Skywarp to me.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081200)
Posted by Tyrannacon on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:40pm CDT

*awakens from slumber while making inhuman noises during*

I see a Tyrannosaurus Megatron, oh my....I want, yes...I really want it. I DEMAND MORE MEGATRON FIGURES!

Honestly it looks really good. I hope we get more of his incarnations like his TM mode and TM2 Dragon mode as well. Plus that fossilized Rex skeleton looks pretty cool too. It does appear Hasbro does know how to make believable dinosaur figures. Wish they did invest that in the Jurassic World toys they produced, but whatever. These look awesome. Also, Studio Series `86 Galvatron will eventually happen at least I hope it will. So that'll be a must-buy for sure.

Soooo awesome. I'm on board if even for these little things while I collect the Mattel Jurassic World figures.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081201)
Posted by Autobot_Benz on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:43pm CDT

ya my mistake I know he had a tail whip as Transmetal Cheetor. Its inacurate for S1 Cheetor to have that tail whip it should be his Quasar gut cannon and his tail gun

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081202)
Posted by Tuned Agent on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:45pm CDT

Megatron looks AMAZING! That T-Rex mode is fantastic. They even went the extra mile and took a page out of the MP's book by giving him a normal arm inside his tail. The only potential issue might be the size of his backpack, but we'll see about that. Absolutely awesome.

Also, Cyclonus looks a lot better now that his legs are extended and with an actual deco.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081203)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:47pm CDT

Tyrannacon wrote:Also, Studio Series `86 Galvatron will eventually happen at least I hope it will.

I've got some good news and some bad news. Bad news is SS86 Galvatron is not going to happen. But that is only because of the good news that Galvatron will be a leader figure in Kingdom instead.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081205)
Posted by bodrock on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:51pm CDT

LOVE this Megatron, yessss — he’s an MP-lite like I was hoping! I love my 10th anniversary BW Megatron but this is pretty much perfect.

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Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081206)
Posted by Tyrannacon on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:52pm CDT

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Tyrannacon wrote:Also, Studio Series `86 Galvatron will eventually happen at least I hope it will.

I've got some good news and some bad news. Bad news is SS86 Galvatron is not going to happen. But that is only because of the good news that Galvatron will be a leader figure in Kingdom instead.

I'll take it either way here because as much as I love Titans Return Galvatron's sculpt and the fact the figure had been modernized, the headmaster gimmick is not my favorite thing ever. Especially the "mask crown" thingy.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081208)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:55pm CDT

Tyrannacon wrote:Also, Studio Series `86 Galvatron will eventually happen at least I hope it will. So that'll be a must-buy for sure.

A Leader Class Galvatron has already been all but confirmed for Kingdom, actually. The 1986 movie cast is being split up among a few different lines right now. Studio Series so far is getting Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr, Grimlock with Wheelie, Slag with Daniel, Scourge, and Gnaw/Sharkticon. Siege got Springer. Earthrise has Arcee, Allicon, and Quitesson Judge. Kingdom will get Arcee again, along with an Earth mode Ultra Magnus, Rodimus Prime, Galvatron, and Cyclonus.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081209)
Posted by bluecatcinema on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:57pm CDT

These guys all look amazing, especially Megatron.

And does anyone else find it funny that Cyclonus' description describes him as being reformatted from Bombshell/Skywarp? It seems they just can't make up their minds...

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081210)
Posted by o.supreme on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:58pm CDT

Megartron looks awesome. I have a friend that is a few years younger than me, I'm telling him Beast Wars is back!, He should be very excited. Cyclonus looks good. But just further cements my personal belief ( I know not all agree), that SS 86 were not just Kingdom toys "that couldn't fit". Cyclonus does not look like he would match the SS86 figures we've seen so far.

I know most fans wont mind (some even mix & match older Generations toys & Newer ones), but if I personally were trying to assemble the cast of TF:TM, across all these different lines would be quite frustrating at the lack of consistency in overall appearance.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081211)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:00pm CDT

bluecatcinema wrote:These guys all look amazing, especially Megatron.

And does anyone else find it funny that Cyclonus' description describes him as being reformatted from Bombshell/Skywarp? It seems they just can't make up their minds...

Yep, basically the design team saying, "Hey, we had no part in making the movie, don't ask us."

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081212)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:05pm CDT

o.supreme wrote:. Cyclonus looks good. But just further cements my personal belief ( I know not all agree), that SS 86 were not just Kingdom toys "that couldn't fit". Cyclonus does not look like he would match the SS86 figures we've seen so far.

I know most fans wont mind (some even mix & match older Generations toys & Newer ones), but if I personally were trying to assemble the cast of TF:TM, across all these different lines would be quite frustrating at the lack of consistency in overall appearance.

I don't get that impression at all, and I don't have any concerns about consistency. Springer is the biggest outlier due to battle damage, but it doesn't bother me at all.

And really, this isn't specific to the animated movie cast, either. My seasons 1 and 2 cast is split between Prime Wars and WfC, but aside from a couple of odd Headmasters, I don't think there's anything that challenges them being displayed together. I would go a step further and say I'm much happier with the consistency in the last two trilogies than in, say, Classics and Universe, or the generic Generations and T30 stuff.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081214)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:08pm CDT

o.supreme wrote:Cyclonus looks good. But just further cements my personal belief ( I know not all agree), that SS 86 were not just Kingdom toys "that couldn't fit". Cyclonus does not look like he would match the SS86 figures we've seen so far.

I know most fans wont mind (some even mix & match older Generations toys & Newer ones), but if I personally were trying to assemble the cast of TF:TM, across all these different lines would be quite frustrating at the lack of consistency in overall appearance.

What about Kingdom Cyclonus do you feel doesn't match what we've seen so far with Studio Series Hot Rod, Kup, and Scourge? They all look very on-model to me, with plenty of sculpted-in detailing on the flat surfaces, good paint apps, and accurate scaling to their on-screen appearances.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081215)
Posted by First-Aid on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:10pm CDT

Mother of Primus, that Megatron figure is FANTASTIC! I didn't have the money to blow on MP BW Megs (thank you, student loans!) but damned if this doesn't make up for it. He looks fantastic!

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081216)
Posted by Ironhide516 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:20pm CDT

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
bluecatcinema wrote:These guys all look amazing, especially Megatron.

And does anyone else find it funny that Cyclonus' description describes him as being reformatted from Bombshell/Skywarp? It seems they just can't make up their minds...

Yep, basically the design team saying, "Hey, we had no part in making the movie, don't ask us."

Uh-oh, looks like this may turn into a Frenzy / Rumble type debate :HEADHURTS:

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081217)
Posted by First-Aid on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:22pm CDT

Ironhide516 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
bluecatcinema wrote:These guys all look amazing, especially Megatron.

And does anyone else find it funny that Cyclonus' description describes him as being reformatted from Bombshell/Skywarp? It seems they just can't make up their minds...

Yep, basically the design team saying, "Hey, we had no part in making the movie, don't ask us."

Uh-oh, looks like this may turn into a Frenzy / Rumble type debate

Anything to see fanboys/fangirls fighting. Pretty sure they would sell tickets if they could...

(business idea forming slowly in my mind now...yesssss...)

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081218)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:24pm CDT

Maybe it's just the angle of the photo, but the T-Rex head on Megaron looks a little derpy to me.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081220)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:28pm CDT

All of these look amazing!

I don't know how many beasts I'll get, but I am a sucker for a good T Rex. And - FINALLY! A good Cyclonus! I mean, the deluxe Cyclonus mold is pretty good, but it really is just too small to work with anyone buy his contemporary Scourge and Galvatron molds. And Combiner Wars Cyclonus is Silverbolt. He just doesn't work very well as cyclonus. So this is very welcome.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081221)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:28pm CDT

Rodimus Knight wrote:Maybe it's just the angle of the photo, but the T-Rex head on Megaron looks a little derpy to me.

It's probably because of the angles he is shot at, and the more "realistic" approach they are taking.. Honestly I am loving that they are trying hard to make the beast wars figures look more like real animals as opposed to what we had before. I know many will be skipping them because trukk not monkey. But thats fine by me, means wont be so hard to find them.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081222)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:36pm CDT

Holy crap DAT BW MEGS! :shock:

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081224)
Posted by Whifflefire on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:42pm CDT

AcademyofDrX wrote:
o.supreme wrote:. Cyclonus looks good. But just further cements my personal belief ( I know not all agree), that SS 86 were not just Kingdom toys "that couldn't fit". Cyclonus does not look like he would match the SS86 figures we've seen so far.

I know most fans wont mind (some even mix & match older Generations toys & Newer ones), but if I personally were trying to assemble the cast of TF:TM, across all these different lines would be quite frustrating at the lack of consistency in overall appearance.

I don't get that impression at all, and I don't have any concerns about consistency. Springer is the biggest outlier due to battle damage, but it doesn't bother me at all.

And really, this isn't specific to the animated movie cast, either. My seasons 1 and 2 cast is split between Prime Wars and WfC, but aside from a couple of odd Headmasters, I don't think there's anything that challenges them being displayed together. I would go a step further and say I'm much happier with the consistency in the last two trilogies than in, say, Classics and Universe, or the generic Generations and T30 stuff.

My G1 cast consists of toys from every classics line from as far back as Universe '08. As long as I have a representation of a character that recognizably resembles them, I consider that enough (so I'm not planning to replace any T30 guys, even though they aren't strictly G1 accurate).

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081225)
Posted by Autobot N on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:43pm CDT

Good stuff

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081226)
Posted by -WonkoTheSane- on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:55pm CDT

Wow. That Megatron looks absolutely perfect! :PREDACON:

Cyclonus looks somewhat unflattering, But I think that's just the angle.
The other two.. Ha. They already had reviews, And they weren't even formally revealed! :lol:

That Megatron though.. Words fail me. Just perfect!
:KREMZEEK:

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081227)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on September 23rd, 2020 @ 1:57pm CDT

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:Wow. That Megatron looks absolutely perfect!
Cyclonus looks somewhat unflattering, But I think that's just the angle.
The other two.. Ha. They already had reviews, And they weren't even formally revealed!
That Megatron though.. Words fail me. Just perfect!

The word your looking for:

YEEAASSSSSS

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081228)
Posted by -WonkoTheSane- on September 23rd, 2020 @ 2:01pm CDT

Immortal Starscream wrote:
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:Wow. That Megatron looks absolutely perfect!
Cyclonus looks somewhat unflattering, But I think that's just the angle.
The other two.. Ha. They already had reviews, And they weren't even formally revealed!
That Megatron though.. Words fail me. Just perfect!

The word your looking for:

YEEAASSSSSS

Yeah, That sums it up nicely. :PREDACON:

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081229)
Posted by First-Aid on September 23rd, 2020 @ 2:09pm CDT

Rodimus Knight wrote:Maybe it's just the angle of the photo, but the T-Rex head on Megaron looks a little derpy to me.

He just needs braces...

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081230)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 23rd, 2020 @ 2:11pm CDT

Cheetor's Beast Mode face looks.. strange. I can't quite put my finger on it, though. The Rattrap figure. it's weird. It looks like a straight upgrade to the '96 original. I don't really see any influence of the more recent Generations figure in his design.

Speaking of Generations, Cyclonus. As anyone who has seen them in the other Toy threads knows, I am very partial to the Universe Cyclonus mold. owning all eight redecos. This one, is just plain inferior. I don't get why his design has gone backwards in 12 years??

As for BW Megs. Putting aside I own MP-43, I don't like Season One Megatron. The bot mode aesthetic is too busy. That sadly, doesn't seem to have changed. However, I like the new more "realistic" Beast Mode, especially the head sculpt.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081232)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 2:22pm CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Speaking of Generations, Cyclonus. As anyone who has seen them in the other Toy threads knows, I am very partial to the Universe Cyclonus mold. owning all eight redecos. This one, is just plain inferior. I don't get why his design has gone backwards in 12 years??

I have all the redecos of him too and I must ask ... how is this one inferior?

The articulation looks like it matches AND it has wrists. The vehicle mode is more cohesive. I suppose you could prefer the bot mode overall.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081233)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 23rd, 2020 @ 2:34pm CDT

Gauntlet101010 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Speaking of Generations, Cyclonus. As anyone who has seen them in the other Toy threads knows, I am very partial to the Universe Cyclonus mold. owning all eight redecos. This one, is just plain inferior. I don't get why his design has gone backwards in 12 years??

I have all the redecos of him too and I must ask ... how is this one inferior?

The articulation looks like it matches AND it has wrists. The vehicle mode is more cohesive. I suppose you could prefer the bot mode overall.

Let's see. First off, The Head sculpt. Proportions of the bot mode and jet mode. The kibble backpack that the Universe one does not have. Aside from better cockpit windows, the jet looks a lot worse too, due to the excessive lower leg. Wrist articulation is somewhat irrelevant, as that was due to the streamlined transformation. But what they could have done is use the universe mold as a base for developing future Cyclonus'. As they nailed it with the '08 figure.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081235)
Posted by sol magnus on September 23rd, 2020 @ 2:39pm CDT

Notimus Crime wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:
CYCLONUS, a herald of UNICRON, first appears in the 1986 movie when BOMBSHELL/SKYWARP were reformatted into the second-in-command of GALVATRON.

So I guess this settles, once and for all, who Cyclonus really is. He's an amalgam of Skywarp AND Bombshell. Cool.

I do like that they know of the controversy there and didn't want to give a concrete answer, so they just go "everyone's right!". Cyclonus will always be Skywarp to me.

Skywarp was in the back. The Armada.

Plus, Skywarp was an idiot. Why Cyclonus has to be him is beyond me. In fact, any of them could be either one because they're completely different guys. Aside from Megatron they were all dead, anyway.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081237)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 23rd, 2020 @ 2:46pm CDT

Gauntlet101010 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Speaking of Generations, Cyclonus. As anyone who has seen them in the other Toy threads knows, I am very partial to the Universe Cyclonus mold. owning all eight redecos. This one, is just plain inferior. I don't get why his design has gone backwards in 12 years??

I have all the redecos of him too and I must ask ... how is this one inferior?

The articulation looks like it matches AND it has wrists. The vehicle mode is more cohesive. I suppose you could prefer the bot mode overall.

Yeah, I don't understand it either. It's like preferring the 2006 Classics Starscream mold to the new Earthrise version. The original Deluxe sized figures were great for the time, but these new ones are scaled better, colored better, more on-model to the original cartoon and movie, and have MORE articulation than ever before. I agree the the changes are not as drastic as they have been for some other characters updated more recently, but superior is superior, no matter the quality gap.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081239)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 23rd, 2020 @ 2:57pm CDT

OH MY GOD!! Beast Wars Megatron looks fantastic! So glad that he didn't get leaked before because this was an awesome surprise

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081240)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 23rd, 2020 @ 2:59pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:but these new ones are scaled better, colored better, more on-model to the original cartoon and movie, and have MORE articulation than ever before.

All of which is completely arbitrary and irrelevant if the figure looks worse overall. compare and contrast. In the Universe bot mode, try and find the jet mode. Other than the wings, behind his arms (which is design accurate) you can't see it.

Also from the images, the only difference in their articulation is the wrists. Which only matters if the arms are poorly articulated, which they weren't.

Lastly, as for the "controversy". Thundercracker was in the foreground and became Scourge. Bombshell was in the same foreground position and became Cyclonus. Also, Sunbow Skywarp was as smart a brick. Cyclonus wasn't.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081241)
Posted by o.supreme on September 23rd, 2020 @ 3:01pm CDT

sol magnus wrote:In fact, any of them could be either one because they're completely different guys. Aside from Megatron they were all dead, anyway.

This^. I think it just matters to some fans who's Dead husks were made into Cyclonus & Scourge's bodies. It's just easiest to go Blue seeker= Blue Scourge, Black/Purple seeker= Purple Cyclonus.

Also for the record, I have never understood the "Armada" as an individual character argument. Armada is a plural noun, has never been meant to be singular. It was likely meant to mean that Cyclonus himself was the commander of all the Cyclonus-like bots & Sweeps that were created.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081244)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 23rd, 2020 @ 3:06pm CDT

o.supreme wrote:Also for the record, I have never understood the "Armada" as an individual character argument. Armada is a plural noun, has never been meant to be singular. It was likely meant to mean that Cyclonus himself was the commander of all the Cyclonus-like bots & Sweeps that were created.

Indeed. When Unicron refers to "his armada" there are two of them onscreen. Later in the show ..more:

tf.jpg

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081245)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 3:07pm CDT

I always took the armada thing as "we can't be bothered to name these grunts, so we'll just call them as a group" so yeah, the term refers to the Fleet he leads

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081248)
Posted by Overcracker on September 23rd, 2020 @ 3:24pm CDT

I always thought the "Armada" thing as just a joke, referring the fact there's only one other visible guy when Cyclonus is created and Unicron boasts "...and his armada!".

People just were making fun of that by calling the single guy there "His Armada".

250px-Cyclonus_armada_tftf.jpg

With that said, as much as I like Universe Cyclonus, this new one is clearly better.

There's no way this:

is better than this:

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081250)
Posted by First-Aid on September 23rd, 2020 @ 3:26pm CDT

Overcracker wrote:I always thought the "Armada" thing as just a joke, referring the fact there's only one other visible guy when Cyclonus is created and Unicron boasts "...and his armada!".

People just were making fun of that by calling the single guy there "His Armada".

TANGENT ALERT! :michaelbay:

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081251)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 3:27pm CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Also for the record, I have never understood the "Armada" as an individual character argument. Armada is a plural noun, has never been meant to be singular. It was likely meant to mean that Cyclonus himself was the commander of all the Cyclonus-like bots & Sweeps that were created.

Indeed. When Unicron refers to "his armada" there are two of them onscreen. Later in the show ..more:

tf.jpg

So how many of them are destined to become Selects releases :lol:

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081252)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 3:28pm CDT

These look good. I'm gonna pass on the beasts, but Cyclonus is a sure thing.

Re: Hasbro Reveals Transformers Kingdom Cyclonus, Beast Wars Megatron and More (2081253)
Posted by First-Aid on September 23rd, 2020 @ 3:30pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Also for the record, I have never understood the "Armada" as an individual character argument. Armada is a plural noun, has never been meant to be singular. It was likely meant to mean that Cyclonus himself was the commander of all the Cyclonus-like bots & Sweeps that were created.

Indeed. When Unicron refers to "his armada" there are two of them onscreen. Later in the show ..more:

tf.jpg

So how many of them are destined to become Selects releases

Forty two.

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