First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack
Sunday, January 28th, 2024 11:12PM CST
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Also, this will be the way we finally get a release of the earth mode Hound mold in Hound colours. For those unaware, it is being released in a 5 pack after the original plans for an individual release were cancelled by Target due to their poor logistics when handling previous Buzzworthy Bumblebee releases.
Below is the image of Wheeljack along with the review it comes from.
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Posted by william-james88 on January 28th, 2024 @ 11:49pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
Doesn't it being squared off give it less blue? With at least the remaining semi circle of blue removed from the sea of blue?
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 28th, 2024 @ 11:53pm CST
No it gives it more. Rounding it off would have cut off some of the blue area.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
Doesn't it being squared off give it less blue? With at least the remaining semi circle of blue removed from the sea of blue?
Posted by Sabrblade on January 29th, 2024 @ 12:05am CST
Indeed. Here is a crude illustration of what I mean. On the left is the official robot mode cutting of the windshield, on the right is how I wish it was cut:Rodimus Prime wrote:No it gives it more. Rounding it off would have cut off some of the blue area.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
Doesn't it being squared off give it less blue? With at least the remaining semi circle of blue removed from the sea of blue?
Posted by Emerje on January 29th, 2024 @ 12:33am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
It's not hard to figure out, if they left it rounded it would sit far below his waist and interfere with the swivel. This is more of a compromise since it allows full articulation and it pulls the bottom of the windshield up nearly as high as it is in the cartoon even if it means changing the shape.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on January 29th, 2024 @ 1:09am CST
See my illustration above that shows what I mean. It needed to not only be rounded, but also smaller, which would place it above the waist rather than down in front of it.Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
It's not hard to figure out, if they left it rounded it would sit far below his waist and interfere with the swivel. This is more of a compromise since it allows full articulation and it pulls the bottom of the windshield up nearly as high as it is in the cartoon even if it means changing the shape.
Emerje
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 29th, 2024 @ 1:10am CST
william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:Found a photo of the 5-pack Wheeljack…
I like it. I was in either way, but I like it.
Is it just me or is anyone else wondering how far the aftermarket prices on the Masterpieces will drop?
I don't see how. If we are talking about Wheeljack, that MP is still the best WJ out there. Plus MP is a different scale entirely and they have licensed alt modes.
Because lately Hasbro has been giving us animation accurate figures that are "Close Enough" for most people so they can skip on the MPs. I have both versions of Wheeljack and while they're fantastic, if I had this version first I wouldn't have gotten the MP. The Masterpieces deliver in accessories and little touches that make them stand out.
Posted by frogbat on January 29th, 2024 @ 1:33am CST
Will I get this? Probably will for hound and I liked the trail breaker, .
Waiting for the destroyed ss86 version now… also, once they release a powerglide, I’m expecting a full hoist goes to Hollywood box set,
Posted by Emerje on January 29th, 2024 @ 3:22am CST
Sabrblade wrote:See my illustration above that shows what I mean. It needed to not only be rounded, but also smaller, which would place it above the waist rather than down in front of it.Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
It's not hard to figure out, if they left it rounded it would sit far below his waist and interfere with the swivel. This is more of a compromise since it allows full articulation and it pulls the bottom of the windshield up nearly as high as it is in the cartoon even if it means changing the shape.
Emerje
No, I get the differences, but making it smaller would have also meant making the car mode somehow smaller since it's not a fake part. Changing the shape of the windshield and roof would have meant making it too small for the car mode, it's already quite small. Only way to get the the chest right is too entirely start over again.
Emerje
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 29th, 2024 @ 4:33am CST
In clear brown, that chest work, but in "cartoon" baby-blue, it's just ugly.
Posted by Emerje on January 29th, 2024 @ 6:18am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:In clear brown, that chest work, but in "cartoon" baby-blue, it's just ugly.
Even though I prefer the opaque windows I do wish they wouldn't use that bright blue. The cartoon used the bright blue sparingly, usually going for a pale blue.
Emerje
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 29th, 2024 @ 11:03am CST
Emerje wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:In clear brown, that chest work, but in "cartoon" baby-blue, it's just ugly.
Even though I prefer the opaque windows I do wish they wouldn't use that bright blue. The cartoon used the bright blue sparingly, usually going for a pale blue.
Emerje
These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.
Toyhax may fix this with Reprolabels, but it should have been done since the start.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 29th, 2024 @ 11:25am CST
Or, hey, if nothing else, shaping the whole windshield like how it's shaped on the Authentics figure (which already cribs much of its design and transformation from the Earthrise figure, just made more simplified) would have been just fine:
Posted by o.supreme on January 29th, 2024 @ 12:20pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.
For the 35th anniversary, Hasbro repainted some Siege figures with cell shading, offered through Walmart. I'm not sure what the overall consensus was. If they were liked or not? I don't really mind either way. I've just seen some other companies try to do it was comic book based characters (Like Batman for instance) and the fans of those lines seem pretty negative towards it.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 29th, 2024 @ 2:08pm CST
o.supreme wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.
For the 35th anniversary, Hasbro repainted some Siege figures with cell shading, offered through Walmart. I'm not sure what the overall consensus was. If they were liked or not? I don't really mind either way. I've just seen some other companies try to do it was comic book based characters (Like Batman for instance) and the fans of those lines seem pretty negative towards it.
The problem with those release were that they cell shaded the whole figures, not just the windows.
Posted by Overcracker on January 29th, 2024 @ 2:21pm CST
The issue is the rest of the car windshield needs to tuck into the shins, so not sure they could re-tool it to cut it any other way, or if it would have even been worth it to do.
Though, I'm still kind off annoyed its the only way to get Sunstreaker at a decent price.
Prepare for a flood of Wheeljacks hitting eBay once this 5 pack is released. I mean does anybody still need a Wheeljack at this point? One as awkward as Siege with opaque windows?
Somehow the squared off windshield looked less odd when done in translucent smokey black.
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 29th, 2024 @ 2:52pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 29th, 2024 @ 4:37pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:o.supreme wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.
For the 35th anniversary, Hasbro repainted some Siege figures with cell shading, offered through Walmart. I'm not sure what the overall consensus was. If they were liked or not? I don't really mind either way. I've just seen some other companies try to do it was comic book based characters (Like Batman for instance) and the fans of those lines seem pretty negative towards it.
The problem with those release were that they cell shaded the whole figures, not just the windows.
Yeah, it look weird for the whole figure. Cell-shade just the windows and it would look great.
Posted by Randomhero on January 29th, 2024 @ 6:14pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 29th, 2024 @ 6:54pm CST
Oh, I didn't like it back then either. I just wasn't as vocal about it at the time.Randomhero wrote:I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it.
Posted by Randomhero on January 29th, 2024 @ 9:44pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Oh, I didn't like it back then either. I just wasn't as vocal about it at the time.Randomhero wrote:I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it.
Considering how you live on the message boards and always have something to say about anything and everything I highly doubt you weren’t vocal about it 4 years ago.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 29th, 2024 @ 11:06pm CST
LOL, I am on here a lot, aren't I?Randomhero wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Oh, I didn't like it back then either. I just wasn't as vocal about it at the time.Randomhero wrote:I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it.
Considering how you live on the message boards and always have something to say about anything and everything I highly doubt you weren’t vocal about it 4 years ago.
I wasn't vocal about it back then because it was a figure I didn't want at the time. No sense bemoaning the look of something I didn't want to buy.
Posted by william-james88 on January 30th, 2024 @ 10:18am CST
Randomhero wrote:I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it. Cant wait for sunstreaker where everyone pretends it’s the first time theyre seeing his windshield on his chest…or this engine gun…or his little chinstrap/goatee.
People complained then, and now that it's made even more obvious with the blue people are complaining again. It's not a great looking design, people are allowed to complain about it.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 30th, 2024 @ 11:18am CST
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 30th, 2024 @ 7:51pm CST
That’s also not how it looked in the animation.
Like I said, the bottom of the torso is fine being squared-off…. The issue is that the windshield should have only been a portion of that part. The character model has the windshield relatively short; all they had to do was cut a curved line into the torso— above the line have the light blue paint; below the line, leave it white plastic. It’s that simple.
As I said before, even if they didn’t want to mess with making the lower torso angled, what I described above is way better than what we’re getting.
Posted by Emerje on January 30th, 2024 @ 8:37pm CST
Sowndwave76 wrote:I don’t really like the look of the bottom of the torso that meets the waist being curved as if his lower torso is all glass. That looks awkward.
That’s also not how it looked in the animation.
Like I said, the bottom of the torso is fine being squared-off…. The issue is that the windshield should have only been a portion of that part. The character model has the windshield relatively short; all they had to do was cut a curved line into the torso— above the line have the light blue paint; below the line, leave it white plastic. It’s that simple.
As I said before, even if they didn’t want to mess with making the lower torso angled, what I described above is way better than what we’re getting.
Curving it would certainly have looked better, but that would have also meant hiding even more of that excess in the legs. The other thing is that photo shop above also stretched him out so the roof and windshield don't look too big, butt hat would have made for an oddly long car mode. Plus having the windshield so low means you've basically eliminated the waist swivel since it's now being blocked.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on January 30th, 2024 @ 8:41pm CST
Which photoshop?Emerje wrote:The other thing is that photo shop above also stretched him out so the roof and windshield don't look too big, butt hat would have made for an oddly long car mode.
Posted by Emerje on February 1st, 2024 @ 1:53am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Which photoshop?Emerje wrote:The other thing is that photo shop above also stretched him out so the roof and windshield don't look too big, butt hat would have made for an oddly long car mode.
The one with all of the variations lined up.
Emerje
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on February 1st, 2024 @ 7:48am CST
Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Which photoshop?Emerje wrote:The other thing is that photo shop above also stretched him out so the roof and windshield don't look too big, butt hat would have made for an oddly long car mode.
The one with all of the variations lined up.
Emerje
I don't think they are stretched. The 3d print files also appear to include ankle parts that increase his height.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 1st, 2024 @ 10:32am CST
Yeah, that's not a photoshop. Those are ankle pieces in addition to the windshield variants.TF-fan kev777 wrote:Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Which photoshop?Emerje wrote:The other thing is that photo shop above also stretched him out so the roof and windshield don't look too big, butt hat would have made for an oddly long car mode.
The one with all of the variations lined up.
Emerje
I don't think they are stretched. The 3d print files also appear to include ankle parts that increase his height.
This is a full STL pack pack for a 3D printed parts to improve the look of Earthrise wheeljack.
It makes him taller and gives him a new chest. You can modify the chest and heels with no damage to the figure, you just need to push out one pin.
To get the full legs extension you will need to cut out a small part of the plastic on the feet.
Posted by Emerje on February 1st, 2024 @ 8:06pm CST
I don't like the way the car mode looks as a result of the smaller windshield. And watching the video for a clearer look it really does eliminate the waist swivel, the windshield is right up against it now.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on February 8th, 2024 @ 4:50pm CST
Here is the ebay listing https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F126322971175%3Fh%20...%205335815852%3C%2Fa%3E%26
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 8th, 2024 @ 5:02pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 8th, 2024 @ 5:57pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:So these will be officially Selects releases, available online only?
Only wheeljack will be selects.
Posted by Dino-Snarl on February 8th, 2024 @ 7:08pm CST
Posted by Sowndwave76 on February 8th, 2024 @ 8:15pm CST
Anxious to get a look at the others we haven't seen photos of yet.
Especially Sunstreaker and Hound (to see the actual, final version).
I also think these comic-themed figures look great.
I won't get either, but I definitely see the appeal.
That Grimlock looks incredibly cool.
Posted by Flashwave on February 8th, 2024 @ 8:26pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 9th, 2024 @ 1:44am CST
Posted by 1984forever on February 9th, 2024 @ 8:12am CST
Posted by Solrac333 on February 9th, 2024 @ 11:31am CST
Posted by DeathReviews on February 9th, 2024 @ 11:49am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 9th, 2024 @ 12:01pm CST
Shockwave is KING and will be mine.
As for Grimlock, he look great but will be an easy pass from me.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on February 9th, 2024 @ 10:10pm CST
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on February 10th, 2024 @ 10:13am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm happy to see that Wheeljack comes with a blaster. Hopefully, this means Sunstreaker will come with one too. We're encouraging people to buy the stolen figures off eBay now?
Well, The last use of that blaster was for Medix and they also gave him the other blaster from Elita-1 too, so I'd say there is a reasonable chance Sunstreaker gets the other one since they would be on the same mold.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on February 10th, 2024 @ 10:51am CST
I understand things in terms of production can be thrown off for multiple reasons.
And sure, surprises can sometimes be nice or “fun”, but I know the vast majority of collectors who try and stay on the pulse would really appreciate officially knowing what’s being released during the year.
Think about how much we randomly get from leakers. Which is fine.
And sure, Hastak may not care and can even claim there are advantages to unofficial news.
I just don’t get why or how it would be a negative to publicize which figures are being released, through which retailers, accompanied by photos or even official renders. And they obvsly know the release schedule…. It’s not requiring anyone do a bunch of legwork.
No, I’m not sitting here pissed or upset; more just thinking “out loud”. Not to mention, thinking about the TF budget for the year and wishing it wasn’t quite so up in the air.
Posted by Byebye88 on February 11th, 2024 @ 8:46am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 27th, 2024 @ 12:07pm CST
https://hasbropulse.com/products/transformers-generations-selects-legacy-united-autobots-stand-united-5-pack
More pics in the order link.
Posted by blackeyedprime on February 27th, 2024 @ 12:31pm CST
the lack of cthru plastic on all of these just highlights how bad these look compared to car bots of the yester year. with only 3 deluxes I'd be wanting out the set I would have to wait for sales on this. That or pick up ss86 jazz and try finding hound and sunstreaker seperately.
Posted by RotorstormNZ on February 27th, 2024 @ 1:00pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 27th, 2024 @ 1:06pm CST
Yeah, it got taken down. Luckily, BBTS still works: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/268319RotorstormNZ wrote:Is anyone else having trouble accessing the page for this pack on Pulse? Either I’ve done something wrong or they’ve taken it down because someone gooded?
Posted by Bounti76 on February 27th, 2024 @ 1:38pm CST
This set will be released in the Generations Selects line, meaning that preorders should be available at all the usual online retailers. It consists of five Deluxe figures, all in cartoon decos, and in the case of four of them, no longer including translucent plastic, which should help durability. All five figures are of previously released molds. The five figures are Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and Trailbreaker, first released in the Earthrise line on 2020; Jazz, released in Studio Series 86 in 2020; and the long rumored and anticipated Hound, in his Earth mode, first released as Detritus in Legacy Evolution in 2023.
This set is scheduled to start shipping in July, with a retail cost around $110 USD, which works out to a cost of $22 USD per figure, less than the current retail cost of a Deluxe. Photos are below.
Let us know what you think of this new set. Did you miss out on Trailbreaker and Sunstreaker when they were first released? Picking it up to finally get a modern Earth-mode Hound in your collection? Sound off in the forums!