First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner
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Fellow Seibertronian Superstar Scotty P (yay for alliteration!) has sent some news our way concerning the Fan Built Combiner Victorion.
USA Today has an article showing the very first image of this new combiner, taken from an upcoming Combiner Hunters comic. The article also contains a quick series of quotes from writer Mairghread Scott. We now know that this combiner will have two helicopters, two "Race cars", a motorcycle, and a rescue truck for alt modes.
Below you will find the article along with the images:
USA Today has an article showing the very first image of this new combiner, taken from an upcoming Combiner Hunters comic. The article also contains a quick series of quotes from writer Mairghread Scott. We now know that this combiner will have two helicopters, two "Race cars", a motorcycle, and a rescue truck for alt modes.
Below you will find the article along with the images:
USA Today's Brian Truitt, wrote:The Transformers universe is about to get an influx of girl power and a giant new personality.
Six female robots that team up to form the massive Combiner character Victorion debut next month in IDW's Transformers: Combiner Hunters comic book, and they're a motley crew made tighter by surviving pretty much the worst environment possible.
Not that writer Mairghread Scott is breaking out the welcome mat to greet them as they're introduced into the mythology.
"I don't like to give my characters a lot of breathing room, so Victorion comes into existence about a half-second before a sword flies at her head," she says.
"Naturally, her first concern when it comes to other Transformers is not being killed by them. But IDW Transformers has always been interested in how people navigate a world of shifting alliances, imperfect heroes, and charismatic villains."
The Combiner Hunters one-shot features the aftermath of the recent Combiner Wars saga and feature the female Autobots Chromia, Windblade and Arcee meeting the new Victorion, the result of a recent Hasbro Fan Built Combiner poll designed to create a new female character for toys and comics.
The resourceful and tenacious Autobots who combine as Victorion volunteered to search for artifacts sacred to their culture and religion in the Sea of Rust, an unsettled area on the planet Cybertron that's corrupted by toxic gases. This dangerous atmosphere corrodes armor and has unknown effects on a 'bot's processors and circuits.
"They've been forced to adapt to their surroundings and have learned how to live without much. This makes them extremely resourceful," says John Warden, Hasbro's Transformers design manager.
"They work together out of need, but they may not always like it. Life in this kind of environment can force you into some difficult choices, and these 'bots aren't afraid to make them. It makes them strong and resilient, and forges a lasting bond."
Like people, each Combiner has its own personality, weaponry and speech pattern, according to Scott. And because the characters, whose names IDW is keeping secret for now, are such a tight unit, they work well in combined form. Consequently, Victorion is more coherent and intelligent than other Combiners such as Menasor and Superion.
"Each of those Transformers accepted a difficult mission from their spiritual leader," Scott says. "You see that drive and zeal multiplied in Victorion. She is a warrior dedicated to her faith, and we all know how dangerous that can be."
The team's alternate vehicular forms include two race cars, a pair of helicopters, a motorcycle and a rescue truck. And Victorion also differs from other Combiners not only because she's female but she can manipulate gravity and has the ability to combine in different configurations. If the copter twins form her legs, she can fly, and when they make up her arms, Victorion can use her gravity powers as a weapon.
The massive lady robot has a big role to play in "Conquerers," the next story line that kicks off in IDW's Transformers series written by Transformers editor John Barber and drawn by Combiner Hunters artist Sara Pitre-Durocher.
Victorion begins to forge a new life for her team, and the six robots ultimately form an interesting relationship with Autobot main man Optimus Prime.
"Optimus is dealing with finding his place in a Cybertronian society that's changing, and Victorion will have life experiences and a world view that's different from Optimus'," says Barber. It all leads into Transformers No. 50 early next year, "where Victorion will be front and center during one of the biggest things we've ever done in Transformers comics."
The new group may be considered a bunch of rogues for those who aren't in their circle of trust, but Scott figures they are way more Indiana Jones than the Punisher.
"They may not agree with our other heroes all the time and they will fight for their beliefs, but Victorion isn't digging up these relics to alleviate some past, personal tragedy," the writer says. "She's doing it to build a better future for all Transformers."
Credit(s): usa today
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Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700301)
Posted by steve2275 on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:27am CDT
Posted by steve2275 on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:27am CDT
sexy
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700302)
Posted by Lockdownhunter on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:27am CDT
Posted by Lockdownhunter on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:27am CDT
This is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700311)
Posted by Super Megatron on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:33am CDT
Posted by Super Megatron on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:33am CDT
Very Gundam.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700312)
Posted by Jones on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:39am CDT
Posted by Jones on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:39am CDT
Looks like we have an overhauled Hot Spot for the core, which is awesome. 
Repaints/molds of AB/Blades for one or two of the arms. Should be cool to see how drastic the changes are on these!
One leg looks like a remold of Dead End, and the other likely to be Breakdown, though it's not visible in any of those pics.
I assume the 'motorcycle' will be a repaint of Groove.
Looking very good!
Repaints/molds of AB/Blades for one or two of the arms. Should be cool to see how drastic the changes are on these!
One leg looks like a remold of Dead End, and the other likely to be Breakdown, though it's not visible in any of those pics.
I assume the 'motorcycle' will be a repaint of Groove.
Looking very good!
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700313)
Posted by Nisus on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:40am CDT
Posted by Nisus on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:40am CDT
The head has a Gundam feel to it.
I was just talking about her/them at work Tuesday and was starting to wonder when we were going to see pics and/or new info. I figured it was going to happen during Botcon.
All in all, going to be interesting.
I was just talking about her/them at work Tuesday and was starting to wonder when we were going to see pics and/or new info. I figured it was going to happen during Botcon.
All in all, going to be interesting.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700314)
Posted by Puhonix on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:40am CDT
Posted by Puhonix on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:40am CDT
2 Alpha Bravos, 2 Dragstrips, a Groove, and a HotSpot?
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700318)
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:42am CDT
Good or Bad? I personally really love when some robots look super japanese, it reminds me of their cultural origins.
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:42am CDT
Super Megatron wrote:Very Gundam.
Good or Bad? I personally really love when some robots look super japanese, it reminds me of their cultural origins.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700320)
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:46am CDT
Pretty certain that isnt the Dragstrip mold we see in the pic.
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:46am CDT
Puhonix wrote:2 Alpha Bravos, 2 Dragstrips, a Groove, and a HotSpot?
Pretty certain that isnt the Dragstrip mold we see in the pic.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700327)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:10am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:10am CDT
Um. Not a fan.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700329)
Posted by Rated X on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:16am CDT
Posted by Rated X on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:16am CDT
Well the comic makes her look feminine which is good. But the real question is how will the toy look ? Feminine or robobutch ?
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700336)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:40am CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:40am CDT
So this is Defensor, basically.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700337)
Posted by Gearslide on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:42am CDT
Posted by Gearslide on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:42am CDT
So the torso is definitely a repainted Hot Spot (Wouldn't surprise me if they retool it in such a way that they can slap a new head on it and it'll look like Bruticus, but given it says "Rescue Truck", I'm guessing it's just Hot Spot with new heads).
BOTH of the arms appear to be identical twins, who are repaints of Alpha Bravo or Blades. Maybe one will have Bravo's head and the other will have Blades'?
The right leg looks like a Dead End repaint (it might be based on the Streetwise version, but given the visible details it resembles Dead End's version more, to me at least).
The left leg is not visible yet, but given the symmetry of the arms and Victorion having "2 race cars", it wouldn't surprise me if the left leg looks nearly identical to the right leg. That mold has 3 heads to work with after all.
And the "motorcycle" is obviously a Groove (legends class) repaint, since that mold works with the Hot Spot mold as a Chest plate.
BOTH of the arms appear to be identical twins, who are repaints of Alpha Bravo or Blades. Maybe one will have Bravo's head and the other will have Blades'?
The right leg looks like a Dead End repaint (it might be based on the Streetwise version, but given the visible details it resembles Dead End's version more, to me at least).
The left leg is not visible yet, but given the symmetry of the arms and Victorion having "2 race cars", it wouldn't surprise me if the left leg looks nearly identical to the right leg. That mold has 3 heads to work with after all.
And the "motorcycle" is obviously a Groove (legends class) repaint, since that mold works with the Hot Spot mold as a Chest plate.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700338)
Posted by Puhonix on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:46am CDT
Yes... Head was thinking Dead End, fingers were typing Drag Strip.
Posted by Puhonix on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:46am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Puhonix wrote:2 Alpha Bravos, 2 Dragstrips, a Groove, and a HotSpot?
Pretty certain that isnt the Dragstrip mold we see in the pic.
Yes... Head was thinking Dead End, fingers were typing Drag Strip.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700339)
Posted by GuyIncognito on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:47am CDT
Posted by GuyIncognito on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:47am CDT
Two more helicopters? I already have two. Are they going to be white and red again as well? Can't we get some green, purple, turquoise, orange, pink, anything but white or red?
On the plus side, it'll be cool to make an all-helicopter Superion.
Your logic is sound.
On the plus side, it'll be cool to make an all-helicopter Superion.
Gearslide wrote:So the torso is definitely a repainted Hot Spot (Wouldn't surprise me if they retool it in such a way that they can slap a new head on it and it'll look like Bruticus, but given it says "Rescue Truck", I'm guessing it's just Hot Spot with new heads).
BOTH of the arms appear to be identical twins, who are repaints of Alpha Bravo or Blades. Maybe one will have Bravo's head and the other will have Blades'?
The right leg looks like a Dead End repaint (it might be based on the Streetwise version, but given the visible details it resembles Dead End's version more, to me at least).
The left leg is not visible yet, but given the symmetry of the arms and Victorion having "2 race cars", it wouldn't surprise me if the left leg looks nearly identical to the right leg. That mold has 3 heads to work with after all.
And the "motorcycle" is obviously a Groove (legends class) repaint, since that mold works with the Hot Spot mold as a Chest plate.
Your logic is sound.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700341)
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:49am CDT
In different colours. We always knew it would be the same molds we saw before so it was going to look similar to any of the previous combiners. It ends up being more defensor like because that torso won out.
Definitiely white.
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:49am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:So this is Defensor, basically.
In different colours. We always knew it would be the same molds we saw before so it was going to look similar to any of the previous combiners. It ends up being more defensor like because that torso won out.
GuyIncognito wrote:Two more helicopters? I already have two. Are they going to be white and red again as well? Can't we get some green, purple, turquoise, orange, pink, anything but white or red?
Definitiely white.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700346)
Posted by MGrotusque on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:06pm CDT
Posted by MGrotusque on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:06pm CDT
Colour me unimpressed. Yawn.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700347)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:09pm CDT
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:09pm CDT
Unless they manage to make that Alpha Bravo mold look absolutely amazing as a new toy, I am turned off by both of her arms being helicopters and the same colors. The head looks nice, certainly more exciting than Defensor's but the colour palette overall seems tedious. I want to like this, because I like the idea of having more female characters in the franchise. .. I'm not saying that I won't be getting her, but for a first impression the two helicopter arms being what I would assume are identical twins makes me wary. I look forward to seeing the toys, and I'm sure that as the toys come out I will be more annoyed by people calling them robobutch than by the toys themselves being less exciting than I had hoped for. I find it mind-boggling how slavish to one set of basic human anatomical standards the fanbase wants giant robot ladies from another planet to be and yet are okay with the dudes having all sorts of shapes and sizes...
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700353)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:25pm CDT
Posted by Dr. Caelus on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:25pm CDT
Looks like the helicopters will have remodel arms - thrusters instead of missiles.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700354)
Posted by ScottyP on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:26pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:26pm CDT
I have no problem with v-fins personally. Gundam has used them for so long, so often for a reason: they just look cool!william-james88 wrote:Super Megatron wrote:Very Gundam.
Good or Bad? I personally really love when some robots look super japanese, it reminds me of their cultural origins.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700356)
Posted by Grahf_ on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:30pm CDT
Posted by Grahf_ on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:30pm CDT
I'll be fine with the double helicopters so long as they finally do something with the blades. I hate them so much. I can make it work in leg mode but in arm mode, I can't stand them. I wish the pin was more accessible so I could tighten it myself as it just wobbles all over the place and is too loose.
Also, I thought it was supposed to be two jets, not two helicopters. Or was that just more bad reporting from an inferior site?
Also, I thought it was supposed to be two jets, not two helicopters. Or was that just more bad reporting from an inferior site?
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700364)
Posted by Shuttershock on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:50pm CDT
Not saying you're wrong, but to be fair HasTak doesn't do a lot to dissuade our expectations. For all the talk of how few fembots there are vs brobots, there's even fewer that don't look stereotypically feminine. The ones I can think of off the top of my head are Strika, Ripclaw and Ovveride, and the latter wasn't even originally a girl.
Just saying, a lot of the "slavish" mindset isn't irrational, given what we usually get.
Posted by Shuttershock on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:50pm CDT
NuclearConvoy wrote:Unless they manage to make that Alpha Bravo mold look absolutely amazing as a new toy, I am turned off by both of her arms being helicopters and the same colors. The head looks nice, certainly more exciting than Defensor's but the colour palette overall seems tedious. I want to like this, because I like the idea of having more female characters in the franchise. .. I'm not saying that I won't be getting her, but for a first impression the two helicopter arms being what I would assume are identical twins makes me wary. I look forward to seeing the toys, and I'm sure that as the toys come out I will be more annoyed by people calling them robobutch than by the toys themselves being less exciting than I had hoped for. I find it mind-boggling how slavish to one set of basic human anatomical standards the fanbase wants giant robot ladies from another planet to be and yet are okay with the dudes having all sorts of shapes and sizes...
Not saying you're wrong, but to be fair HasTak doesn't do a lot to dissuade our expectations. For all the talk of how few fembots there are vs brobots, there's even fewer that don't look stereotypically feminine. The ones I can think of off the top of my head are Strika, Ripclaw and Ovveride, and the latter wasn't even originally a girl.
Just saying, a lot of the "slavish" mindset isn't irrational, given what we usually get.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700366)
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:53pm CDT
I am trying to find that reporting but cant find it on our site. The picture probably was Jet/Helicopter and they opted to give us 2 helicopters.
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:53pm CDT
Alpha Weltall wrote:I'll be fine with the double helicopters so long as they finally do something with the blades. I hate them so much. I can make it work in leg mode but in arm mode, I can't stand them. I wish the pin was more accessible so I could tighten it myself as it just wobbles all over the place and is too loose.
Also, I thought it was supposed to be two jets, not two helicopters. Or was that just more bad reporting from an inferior site?
I am trying to find that reporting but cant find it on our site. The picture probably was Jet/Helicopter and they opted to give us 2 helicopters.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700377)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:09pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:09pm CDT
She really does look very neat. I like it so far. The twin helicopters: I saw them using one, but it will kinda look good with 2 in my opinion. It will be similar to takara Superion: The arms are the exact same thing with different colors and heads (in this case, same colors but probs different color schemes), and the legs are very similar. I also like that they are taking the RiD Ruination trick of having a flight mode and a ground mode. Very nice. I think the Hotspot mold was going to win anyways since it was new and it actually looks very good and I like it.
As another note, I like the helicopter mode since it is the Aerial vehicle that stores the h/f things the best, Although I do kinda hope the 2 racecars are Deadends since They form good kneepads.
One last thing: Don't go hating on her bad just yet. This is basically a sneak peak; this is just gives us an idea, and it's not showing the actual toy or actual official concept art. For all we know, the toys could be heavily retooled and look amazing, yet the art is not bringing it across completely. So please, just give this a chance to pan out better.
As another note, I like the helicopter mode since it is the Aerial vehicle that stores the h/f things the best, Although I do kinda hope the 2 racecars are Deadends since They form good kneepads.
One last thing: Don't go hating on her bad just yet. This is basically a sneak peak; this is just gives us an idea, and it's not showing the actual toy or actual official concept art. For all we know, the toys could be heavily retooled and look amazing, yet the art is not bringing it across completely. So please, just give this a chance to pan out better.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700378)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:11pm CDT
If I remember correctly, 2 of the limbs were supposed to be aerial vehicles with 3 choices: heli, bomber and reconnaissance. It looks like the helicopters won out. Had we picked Truck, I think the first Aid, Off Road and Rook molds would then have been there for selection.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:11pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Alpha Weltall wrote:I'll be fine with the double helicopters so long as they finally do something with the blades. I hate them so much. I can make it work in leg mode but in arm mode, I can't stand them. I wish the pin was more accessible so I could tighten it myself as it just wobbles all over the place and is too loose.
Also, I thought it was supposed to be two jets, not two helicopters. Or was that just more bad reporting from an inferior site?
I am trying to find that reporting but cant find it on our site. The picture probably was Jet/Helicopter and they opted to give us 2 helicopters.
If I remember correctly, 2 of the limbs were supposed to be aerial vehicles with 3 choices: heli, bomber and reconnaissance. It looks like the helicopters won out. Had we picked Truck, I think the first Aid, Off Road and Rook molds would then have been there for selection.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700379)
Posted by Grahf_ on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:11pm CDT
I was referring to TFormers. I read there a few days ago that it was supposed to be two jets. I can't find the article now but I do remember it was there that I seen it.
Posted by Grahf_ on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:11pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Alpha Weltall wrote:I'll be fine with the double helicopters so long as they finally do something with the blades. I hate them so much. I can make it work in leg mode but in arm mode, I can't stand them. I wish the pin was more accessible so I could tighten it myself as it just wobbles all over the place and is too loose.
Also, I thought it was supposed to be two jets, not two helicopters. Or was that just more bad reporting from an inferior site?
I am trying to find that reporting but cant find it on our site. The picture probably was Jet/Helicopter and they opted to give us 2 helicopters.
I was referring to TFormers. I read there a few days ago that it was supposed to be two jets. I can't find the article now but I do remember it was there that I seen it.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700380)
Posted by bluecatcinema on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:14pm CDT
Posted by bluecatcinema on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:14pm CDT
Not too shabby. I like the head design, and the gravity powers sound awesome.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700385)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:33pm CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:33pm CDT
thats a let down, i knew the set was going to be all repaints but to have 2 of the same mold is just stupid. And it doesnt help that its the worst CW mold so far. I will wait till i see the final product but based on this ill be passing on at least one of the chopper chicks.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700386)
Posted by shockblast2 on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:33pm CDT
Posted by shockblast2 on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:33pm CDT
Sexism at its finest. 
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700389)
Posted by Shuttershock on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:37pm CDT
In what way?
Posted by Shuttershock on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:37pm CDT
shockblast2 wrote:Sexism at its finest.
In what way?
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700394)
Posted by Optimizzy on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:44pm CDT
maybe the obvious feminine shape that wont be reflected in the toy? I dunno. I actually was hoping the toy would look feminine. Variety, ya know? But I can see the point that its drawn the be feminine although it wont look very feminine.
But I kinda hope it does look like this art...so...not complaining?
Posted by Optimizzy on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:44pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Sexism at its finest.
In what way?
maybe the obvious feminine shape that wont be reflected in the toy? I dunno. I actually was hoping the toy would look feminine. Variety, ya know? But I can see the point that its drawn the be feminine although it wont look very feminine.
But I kinda hope it does look like this art...so...not complaining?
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700396)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:48pm CDT
Because identifying a female character as female is social justice sexism, forcing women to go out and entertain like a minstrel act, it promotes rape culture, objectifies women, and the cisgender white man is the devil. I'm sure at least one of those is a "reason" for thinking it sexist. I don't know maybe the sexist part was we didn't have a female combiner until 30 years in the brands history. Or the fact alota people still operate with that weird 80s sexism and misogyny.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:48pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Sexism at its finest.
In what way?
Because identifying a female character as female is social justice sexism, forcing women to go out and entertain like a minstrel act, it promotes rape culture, objectifies women, and the cisgender white man is the devil. I'm sure at least one of those is a "reason" for thinking it sexist. I don't know maybe the sexist part was we didn't have a female combiner until 30 years in the brands history. Or the fact alota people still operate with that weird 80s sexism and misogyny.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700398)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:53pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:53pm CDT
She has wings! Like really large wings that don't seem to be related to the a/b arms; maybe a new legends figure to make a backpack, or just the remolded ladder; at the very least the chest doesn't look like groove, and even has some of Hotspots sculpted detail on it, so maybe no Groove, but a new jetpack figure.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700405)
Posted by Rated X on June 19th, 2015 @ 2:05pm CDT
Dude....are you serious ?
Lighten up, there are worse atrocities in the world than fembots with coke bottle figures. I dont see people complaining that they dont make fat, bloated Barbie or Bratz dolls....
Posted by Rated X on June 19th, 2015 @ 2:05pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Shuttershock wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Sexism at its finest.
In what way?
Because identifying a female character as female is social justice sexism, forcing women to go out and entertain like a minstrel act, it promotes rape culture, objectifies women, and the cisgender white man is the devil. I'm sure at least one of those is a "reason" for thinking it sexist. I don't know maybe the sexist part was we didn't have a female combiner until 30 years in the brands history. Or the fact alota people still operate with that weird 80s sexism and misogyny.
Dude....are you serious ?
Lighten up, there are worse atrocities in the world than fembots with coke bottle figures. I dont see people complaining that they dont make fat, bloated Barbie or Bratz dolls....
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700407)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 19th, 2015 @ 2:14pm CDT
Halfy way serious. I don't have a problem with a female character being any shape really as long as its a interesting character design. The point was people decrying victorion as sexist will probably follow the logic that it's objectifies women because. My point was the actual sexism here is the fact it took nearly 30 for women to have a more regular role and representation in the franchise, and people view that as a bad thing.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 19th, 2015 @ 2:14pm CDT
Rated X wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Shuttershock wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Sexism at its finest.
In what way?
Because identifying a female character as female is social justice sexism, forcing women to go out and entertain like a minstrel act, it promotes rape culture, objectifies women, and the cisgender white man is the devil. I'm sure at least one of those is a "reason" for thinking it sexist. I don't know maybe the sexist part was we didn't have a female combiner until 30 years in the brands history. Or the fact alota people still operate with that weird 80s sexism and misogyny.
Dude....are you serious ?
Lighten up, there are worse atrocities in the world than fembots with coke bottle figures. I dont see people complaining that they dont make fat, bloated Barbie or Bratz dolls....
Halfy way serious. I don't have a problem with a female character being any shape really as long as its a interesting character design. The point was people decrying victorion as sexist will probably follow the logic that it's objectifies women because. My point was the actual sexism here is the fact it took nearly 30 for women to have a more regular role and representation in the franchise, and people view that as a bad thing.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700415)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on June 19th, 2015 @ 2:44pm CDT
Posted by Doubledealer93 on June 19th, 2015 @ 2:44pm CDT
if they were decepticons i would like them.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700424)
Posted by Syn_13 on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:00pm CDT
Posted by Syn_13 on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:00pm CDT
I like the design, but it has to be said, repeating 2 of the same moulds is really lazy. I'm undecided until I see an actual figure.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700431)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:07pm CDT
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:07pm CDT
Syn_13 wrote:I like the design, but it has to be said, repeating 2 of the same moulds is really lazy. I'm undecided until I see an actual figure.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700440)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:18pm CDT
OH GOD!!! all the hideous bland white plastic!!! Make it STOP
Seriously though, TT's Superion uses way too much of the same white plastic as to make it visually painful; and I agree, waiting 'til official art/pic's are available would probably be best; however, being both a combiner and a mob of fembots, this is an easy insta-buy for me.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:18pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Syn_13 wrote:I like the design, but it has to be said, repeating 2 of the same moulds is really lazy. I'm undecided until I see an actual figure.
OH GOD!!! all the hideous bland white plastic!!! Make it STOP
Seriously though, TT's Superion uses way too much of the same white plastic as to make it visually painful; and I agree, waiting 'til official art/pic's are available would probably be best; however, being both a combiner and a mob of fembots, this is an easy insta-buy for me.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700453)
Posted by Starsaber468 on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:41pm CDT
Posted by Starsaber468 on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:41pm CDT
Ngvto be feel bad for the toy its not going to look as impressive as this but oh well
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700578)
Posted by CrankyOldTruck on June 19th, 2015 @ 5:58pm CDT
Hasbro, you cheap mother******
I shouldn't bitch because we all knew they were going to hose us on this one but it is still a slap in the face.
Take the sh** pieces of the first 3 combiners and say "Here's how much we respect your input and the obscene amount of money you've thrown at us for the past 30 years."
You noobs want to be excited about this, be my guest but they've been getting my hard earned money since 1984, back when Wheeljack cost all of $7.99 and Huffer only cost me $2.99.
We long time fans deserved better than this and no, that joke of a Titan Class combiner is no consolation. They f'd that up too as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by CrankyOldTruck on June 19th, 2015 @ 5:58pm CDT
Puhonix wrote:2 Alpha Bravos, 2 Dragstrips, a Groove, and a HotSpot?
Hasbro, you cheap mother******
I shouldn't bitch because we all knew they were going to hose us on this one but it is still a slap in the face.
Take the sh** pieces of the first 3 combiners and say "Here's how much we respect your input and the obscene amount of money you've thrown at us for the past 30 years."
You noobs want to be excited about this, be my guest but they've been getting my hard earned money since 1984, back when Wheeljack cost all of $7.99 and Huffer only cost me $2.99.
We long time fans deserved better than this and no, that joke of a Titan Class combiner is no consolation. They f'd that up too as far as I'm concerned.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700586)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on June 19th, 2015 @ 6:14pm CDT
More likely because on the Internet there will always be someone to call something sexist, because at this point, washing every sentiment or issue with a weak coat of feminism is the best way to ensure the long term persistence of patriarchy, while garnering praise for supporting the cause.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on June 19th, 2015 @ 6:14pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Shuttershock wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Sexism at its finest.
In what way?
Because identifying a female character as female is social justice sexism, forcing women to go out and entertain like a minstrel act, it promotes rape culture, objectifies women, and the cisgender white man is the devil. I'm sure at least one of those is a "reason" for thinking it sexist. I don't know maybe the sexist part was we didn't have a female combiner until 30 years in the brands history. Or the fact alota people still operate with that weird 80s sexism and misogyny.
More likely because on the Internet there will always be someone to call something sexist, because at this point, washing every sentiment or issue with a weak coat of feminism is the best way to ensure the long term persistence of patriarchy, while garnering praise for supporting the cause.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700591)
Posted by ctrlFrequency on June 19th, 2015 @ 6:27pm CDT
Posted by ctrlFrequency on June 19th, 2015 @ 6:27pm CDT
Okay, the first thing that popped into my head was how well they matched... identical... like little femmi-clones....
Considering the rest of the combiners (so called males) usually have the fashion sense of a blind bull in a paint shop, I'm wondering what they are saying here... cause I know men have more style
Seriously... I'm unimpressed.
Considering the rest of the combiners (so called males) usually have the fashion sense of a blind bull in a paint shop, I'm wondering what they are saying here... cause I know men have more style
Seriously... I'm unimpressed.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700602)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 19th, 2015 @ 6:49pm CDT
To be fair, Hasbro only had, what, 3 colors, 4 colors to work with for the whole team? Not a whole ton of room for variation, so not sure just what you may have been expecting.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 19th, 2015 @ 6:49pm CDT
ctrlFrequency wrote:Okay, the first thing that popped into my head was how well they matched... identical... like little femmi-clones....
Considering the rest of the combiners (so called males) usually have the fashion sense of a blind bull in a paint shop, I'm wondering what they are saying here... cause I know men have more style
Seriously... I'm unimpressed.
To be fair, Hasbro only had, what, 3 colors, 4 colors to work with for the whole team? Not a whole ton of room for variation, so not sure just what you may have been expecting.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700609)
Posted by Jones on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:00pm CDT
Posted by Jones on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:00pm CDT
Seriously, some of the replies on this thread have me like
Don't like it? Don't buy it.
Vote with your wallet. It's how Hasbro, and any other business for that matter, decides what is a success and what is not. Despite what many here seem to think, they aren't a stupid business who makes stuff to lose money or to purposely piss off their customers. Everyone likes different stuff. I guarantee there are figures/lines that YOU love that others don't,
Example: I don't like Beast Wars. Never have. But the fans who love it and buy that stuff? They're awesome. Hey, go nuts buying that stuff. Enjoy it, and keep pumping money in to Hasbro so that when the time comes for them to release stuff that I dig, they're still around.
Stop calling people who like stuff you don't whatever derogatory term is your preferred slam, and simply don't buy the thing. There are plenty of others who will happily pick it up in your place and remove it from your line of sight.
There, I said it.
Don't like it? Don't buy it.
Vote with your wallet. It's how Hasbro, and any other business for that matter, decides what is a success and what is not. Despite what many here seem to think, they aren't a stupid business who makes stuff to lose money or to purposely piss off their customers. Everyone likes different stuff. I guarantee there are figures/lines that YOU love that others don't,
Example: I don't like Beast Wars. Never have. But the fans who love it and buy that stuff? They're awesome. Hey, go nuts buying that stuff. Enjoy it, and keep pumping money in to Hasbro so that when the time comes for them to release stuff that I dig, they're still around.
Stop calling people who like stuff you don't whatever derogatory term is your preferred slam, and simply don't buy the thing. There are plenty of others who will happily pick it up in your place and remove it from your line of sight.
There, I said it.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700611)
Posted by Shuttershock on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:06pm CDT
Transformers unfashionable? Bah! Perish the thought!
Posted by Shuttershock on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:06pm CDT
ctrlFrequency wrote:Okay, the first thing that popped into my head was how well they matched... identical... like little femmi-clones....
Considering the rest of the combiners (so called males) usually have the fashion sense of a blind bull in a paint shop, I'm wondering what they are saying here... cause I know men have more style
Seriously... I'm unimpressed.
Transformers unfashionable? Bah! Perish the thought!
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700625)
Posted by fenrir72 on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:28pm CDT
You got it right there X! I give credit where it is due.
I konow SH was half joshin' but would people wiith gender issue chip on their shoulders lighten up!
Posted by fenrir72 on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:28pm CDT
Rated X wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Shuttershock wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Sexism at its finest.
In what way?
Because identifying a female character as female is social justice sexism, forcing women to go out and entertain like a minstrel act, it promotes rape culture, objectifies women, and the cisgender white man is the devil. I'm sure at least one of those is a "reason" for thinking it sexist. I don't know maybe the sexist part was we didn't have a female combiner until 30 years in the brands history. Or the fact alota people still operate with that weird 80s sexism and misogyny.
Dude....are you serious ?
Lighten up, there are worse atrocities in the world than fembots with coke bottle figures. I dont see people complaining that they dont make fat, bloated Barbie or Bratz dolls....
You got it right there X! I give credit where it is due.
I konow SH was half joshin' but would people wiith gender issue chip on their shoulders lighten up!
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700629)
Posted by ctrlFrequency on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:33pm CDT
Actually, I like that they have similarities color wise, being a team and all, but it's too perfectly matched is what I'm saying.
What I'm not saying is that it sends a gender bias message (that boys don't have fashion sense) but that's just another facet of mother of two boys and staunch feminist that I'm sure no one wants to listen to me go into AGAIN.
(honestly, this may have a lot to do with listening to my 6 year old spout on about how something is only for girls because of it's color and something else is only for boys because of it's color. Until he started school, he never associated color with gender, I never have let him believe that, he used to like pink because it was a lighter version of his favorite color, red... until other kids told him it was a girl color)
Posted by ctrlFrequency on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:33pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:ctrlFrequency wrote:Okay, the first thing that popped into my head was how well they matched... identical... like little femmi-clones....
Considering the rest of the combiners (so called males) usually have the fashion sense of a blind bull in a paint shop, I'm wondering what they are saying here... cause I know men have more style
Seriously... I'm unimpressed.
To be fair, Hasbro only had, what, 3 colors, 4 colors to work with for the whole team? Not a whole ton of room for variation, so not sure just what you may have been expecting.
Actually, I like that they have similarities color wise, being a team and all, but it's too perfectly matched is what I'm saying.
What I'm not saying is that it sends a gender bias message (that boys don't have fashion sense) but that's just another facet of mother of two boys and staunch feminist that I'm sure no one wants to listen to me go into AGAIN.
(honestly, this may have a lot to do with listening to my 6 year old spout on about how something is only for girls because of it's color and something else is only for boys because of it's color. Until he started school, he never associated color with gender, I never have let him believe that, he used to like pink because it was a lighter version of his favorite color, red... until other kids told him it was a girl color)
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700632)
Posted by fenrir72 on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:36pm CDT
Gundm has the Samurai armor kabuto helmet influence. So no surprise.
Posted by fenrir72 on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:36pm CDT
Nisus wrote:The head has a Gundam feel to it.
I was just talking about her/them at work Tuesday and was starting to wonder when we were going to see pics and/or new info. I figured it was going to happen during Botcon.
All in all, going to be interesting.
Gundm has the Samurai armor kabuto helmet influence. So no surprise.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700634)
Posted by Shuttershock on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:38pm CDT
No, there's some merit to both design types. On the one hand, a unified design makes the combiner look like something that's MEANT to go together and denotes the bots as a team.
On the other hand, a lack of unification makes the bots feel like individuals, not incomplete parts serving a bigger robot. Much as I like them, the Constructicons and Predacons can look a bit superficially samey.
Posted by Shuttershock on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:38pm CDT
ctrlFrequency wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:ctrlFrequency wrote:Okay, the first thing that popped into my head was how well they matched... identical... like little femmi-clones....
Considering the rest of the combiners (so called males) usually have the fashion sense of a blind bull in a paint shop, I'm wondering what they are saying here... cause I know men have more style
Seriously... I'm unimpressed.
To be fair, Hasbro only had, what, 3 colors, 4 colors to work with for the whole team? Not a whole ton of room for variation, so not sure just what you may have been expecting.
Actually, I like that they have similarities color wise, being a team and all, but it's too perfectly matched is what I'm saying.
What I'm not saying is that it sends a gender bias message (that boys don't have fashion sense) but that's just another facet of mother of two boys and staunch feminist that I'm sure no one wants to listen to me go into AGAIN.
No, there's some merit to both design types. On the one hand, a unified design makes the combiner look like something that's MEANT to go together and denotes the bots as a team.
On the other hand, a lack of unification makes the bots feel like individuals, not incomplete parts serving a bigger robot. Much as I like them, the Constructicons and Predacons can look a bit superficially samey.
Re: First Look at Victorion, the fan built combiner (1700636)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:39pm CDT
Totally wasn't implying that; only that the color palette was revealed a while ago, so no surprises there, but I get what you're saying about the deco being super cohesive in combined mode, like it was predesigned and then split, or something.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:39pm CDT
ctrlFrequency wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:ctrlFrequency wrote:Okay, the first thing that popped into my head was how well they matched... identical... like little femmi-clones....
Considering the rest of the combiners (so called males) usually have the fashion sense of a blind bull in a paint shop, I'm wondering what they are saying here... cause I know men have more style
Seriously... I'm unimpressed.
To be fair, Hasbro only had, what, 3 colors, 4 colors to work with for the whole team? Not a whole ton of room for variation, so not sure just what you may have been expecting.
Actually, I like that they have similarities color wise, being a team and all, but it's too perfectly matched is what I'm saying.
What I'm not saying is that it sends a gender bias message (that boys don't have fashion sense) but that's just another facet of mother of two boys and staunch feminist that I'm sure no one wants to listen to me go into AGAIN.
Totally wasn't implying that; only that the color palette was revealed a while ago, so no surprises there, but I get what you're saying about the deco being super cohesive in combined mode, like it was predesigned and then split, or something.
