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This item was MISB until I opened it to do pictures for this auction.

Chaoslock wrote:

This item was MISB until I opened it to do pictures for this auction.

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Seibertron wrote:I had to make sure since the sides were double taped. Better safe than sorry. Sucks that I had to open them to verify but I'd rather do that than sell them and them not be complete. Can anyone explain the double taped ends?

Rated X wrote:No disrespect to anybody but I think "MISB" collecting is kind of geeky. Toys just look cooler when they are posed out of the box. It's ok to have a few favorites sealed for keepsakes (I got five sealed on cards) but to have a whole wall or even room full of sealed boxes is silly. Just my opinion.

Rated X wrote:No disrespect to anybody but I think "MISB" collecting is kind of geeky. Toys just look cooler when they are posed out of the box. It's ok to have a few favorites sealed for keepsakes (I got five sealed on cards) but to have a whole wall or even room full of sealed boxes is silly. Just my opinion.

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Rated X wrote:No disrespect to anybody but I think "MISB" collecting is kind of geeky. Toys just look cooler when they are posed out of the box. It's ok to have a few favorites sealed for keepsakes (I got five sealed on cards) but to have a whole wall or even room full of sealed boxes is silly. Just my opinion.

About 45% of my collection is sealed. I've got nearly 1300 figures ranging from Beast Wars up to ROTF with figures from both Hasbro and TakaraTomy. When you are on you eight or ninth copy of Movie Bumblebee, there is no magic in opening and displaying it. I do, however, want them all, so the duplicates (which are often the rarer version) stay MISB to keep their value up.

Cybertron Galvatron MISB easily sells for $250 these days, but loose sells for around $50-$75. I've already seem nearly all there is to see with that figure in Cybertron Megatron, so there's no real reason to open it.

Probably the only really good thing about a totally loose collection is the sheer volume you save by not having packaging. But that's dubious at best.

HighPrime wrote:

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Rated X wrote:No disrespect to anybody but I think "MISB" collecting is kind of geeky. Toys just look cooler when they are posed out of the box. It's ok to have a few favorites sealed for keepsakes (I got five sealed on cards) but to have a whole wall or even room full of sealed boxes is silly. Just my opinion.

About 45% of my collection is sealed. I've got nearly 1300 figures ranging from Beast Wars up to ROTF with figures from both Hasbro and TakaraTomy. When you are on you eight or ninth copy of Movie Bumblebee, there is no magic in opening and displaying it. I do, however, want them all, so the duplicates (which are often the rarer version) stay MISB to keep their value up.

Cybertron Galvatron MISB easily sells for $250 these days, but loose sells for around $50-$75. I've already seem nearly all there is to see with that figure in Cybertron Megatron, so there's no real reason to open it.

Probably the only really good thing about a totally loose collection is the sheer volume you save by not having packaging. But that's dubious at best.

We should take this 'outside' [i.e., in another thread] as it's getting way off track. I'm going to derail further, though.

If you find someone who will buy a MISB Cybertron Galvatron for $250, I say sell now. No way that should go for that much. Even on eBay, $100 is asking a lot. In fact, one just sold for $50 + shipping. I recently purchased the rarer eHobby version Gd-1D Master Galvatron and that set me back $130 + shipping. I KNOW I way overpaid for it

As far as your other points. I too would like to keep up the value of my collection, but not at the expense of at least transforming them from time to time and putting them up on display. Our meaning of 'enjoyment' differs, though. Nothing wrong with either. However, I say put you money in the bank instead of buying 10 copies of Bumblebee; you're make more money in the long run. Not as much fun, I grant you, but if the primary reason for buying these isn't too enjoy them, there's numerous alternatives that can net you more cash.

I guess I'm not much of a MISB collector. I do keep all packaging, and inserts, though. I mean, if you obtained a hand cut box sample that was factory taped (like some of Curt from TFsource' collection), I could understand the reason to keep it sealed. You could get a Targetmaster Hot Rod to mess around with anywhere, but the samples he has in hand cut boxes that are AFA'd are one of a kind items.

No disrespect to you or others like you

Razorclaw0000 wrote:Probably the only really good thing about a totally loose collection is the sheer volume you save by not having packaging. But that's dubious at best.

DMSL wrote:This post ia a great way to drive up the prizes, thx for that.

Rated X wrote:If I was looking for an investment, I would go buy some land, stocks or something. If you really love something you wouldnt care about the money. You would do it for passion. Its just like baseball cards when I was a teen. Adult collectors came and ruined the hobby with their big spending and in the end the values all dropped and now you got a bunch of sealed packages with nobody interested in buying them.

Seibertron wrote:

Rated X wrote:If I was looking for an investment, I would go buy some land, stocks or something. If you really love something you wouldnt care about the money. You would do it for passion. Its just like baseball cards when I was a teen. Adult collectors came and ruined the hobby with their big spending and in the end the values all dropped and now you got a bunch of sealed packages with nobody interested in buying them.

A lot of us, we are highly concerned about the value and condition of our items. I do it for passion, but I also do it for the long term value of all of this. One day, I might not collect Transformers. I might be 70 or 90 when that day comes, but damn will I be happy that I took really good care of all of these figures so that they would be worth top dollar one day. I also buy doubles from now and then with the intentional purpose of keeping them to resell later down the road. It's all about the passion. I promise! You just happen to show your passion differently than others do. It doesn't make what others do wrong or right, or less or more important.

Adult collectors didn't ruin baseball cards. Nor did they ruin comics. If there was a villain in all of this, I feel that the popularity of the Internet is the culprit. And perhaps artificial greed. it's my opinion that Adult collectors are currently what's keeping baseball cards, comics, and toys alive ... at least with what interests us. BotCon is a perfect example ... who do you think the majority of people are that attend?. Same with Comic-Con, or pretty much any hobby convention. I don't think toys suffered as much as the other two segments, at least value wise, because they're a much more expensive hobby to get into initially than buying comics or baseball cards.

I used to be a MISB collector of items I didn't care much for until I started doing the galleries on this site. Now I open everything so that I can share these items with all of you. A lot of fans had better hope that I never get my hands on an ATB Megatron, the G2 Stunticons or the G2 Protectobots because I want pictures dammit!